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[–] MeshPotato@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Indonesia is just bizarre. They've got the most draconian and nonsensical laws. The only step up is a full on fascist country like China or russia.

Other than being cheap, I don't understand why so many digi nomads want to live there.

[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don't know how much you know about the political history of Indonesia, but it's already pretty much a fascist state.

Check out The Act of Killing. It's brutal.

[–] azayrahmad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How come you say that? Genuine question. Seemed to me like the people who did or supported the mass murders of Leftists were still in power.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is like saying Germany is a fascist state because of the Nazi which are already gone a long time ago.

Edit: why the downvotes? The people referenced in the Act of Killings documentary are either no longer in power or long dead. The golfing dude who look important are just head of some gang organization who have a bad reputation among Indonesian people that know him (most don't), not an elected government official. How is Indonesia a fascist state when every election periods we have two presidential candidates with very close vote counts?

[–] eskimofry@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

The AFD disagree with you

[–] SuperApples@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Digital nomad in Indonesia here. People are friendly, food is great, scenery is beautiful, and weather is cool but not cold this time of year. I wouldn't live here full time, but I wouldn't live anywhere full time (because I am a nomad!).

I don't agree with many of the laws here but that is true of pretty much everywhere.

[–] deus@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a tropical country with great food, welcoming people and beautiful landscapes, so I can imagine a few reasons why. The laws and proneness to natural disasters are less than ideal, though.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

The olds rule the world.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only step up is a full on fascist country like China or russia.

You are confusing fascism with imperialism. Netiher China or Russia is fascist state despite of what some shitty non-scientific sources say. However it's not hard to see increase of fascist movement in Russia (which could become a huge problem in post war Russia no matter the result of the war), but also in some other European states or even USA (Republicans come to mind).

[–] andruid@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

The nationalist authoritarian does seem to have power in China for sure, but doesn't seem to the primary power there.