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[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I generally think the rule on splitting infinitives was made up by English majors upset that English isn't more compatible with Latin, but in this case I think the attempt to avoid the split made the sentence weaker and ruins the sentiment.

"Trying to not kill yourself" implies effort. It sounds like you're actively avoiding something. "Trying not to kill yourself" sounds like you're doing something different, to change it up.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 days ago

You're right. There's no actual rule in English that you can't split infinitives. It was copied over from Latin in an attempt to try to come up with some rules for grammar.

Source: Many nerdy discussions with Star Trek geeks about "to boldly go where no one has gone before"

[–] keegomatic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s interesting. I feel differently. “Trying not to kill myself” sounds a lot more natural than the split “trying to not kill myself.” “Trying to not kill myself” sounds like internet slang that makes the statement sound awkward on purpose so it’s taken less seriously. But the former format is way more natural to speak.

[–] Cheesus@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

This might be a regional difference, but when I say it out loud, 'tryna not kill myself' is by far the more natural construction. But I agree that in writing, 'trying not to kill myself' feels more natural, while 'trying to not kill myself' feels stilted and intentionally awkward. Man I love language.

[–] electricyarn@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This sentence made me want to kill myself.

Just kidding

[–] zante@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 days ago

Have you you tried antidepressants?