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I’d argue it’s an objectively true statement that, of all the people alive today, Putin has singlehandedly caused more death and suffering than anyone else. The gap between him and whoever is second is likely orders of magnitude. Yet, when I read discussions about him, Russia, or the war in Ukraine, I almost never see the kind of hateful, nasty, and mean comments directed at him that I regularly see aimed at Trump, Elon, or even ordinary Republican politicians. Why is that?

Bonus question: Why be so nasty about it in the first place? There’s nothing wrong with criticism, but I struggle to understand the need for such meanness. Even when I agree with the sentiment, reading comments like that feels toxic. It poisons my mind too. I don’t like being angry, and I avoid it for practical reasons as well. Anger clouds my judgment, and I think it does the same for others and thus should be avoided.

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[–] sir_pronoun@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Another fascinating question is why Netanjahu is receiving more hate in the West when they're basically doing the same thing, only Putin has even less of a reason and is killing more people. (Ukrainians didn't massacre Russian civilians or take them hostage, either)

[–] moonlight@fedia.io 4 points 9 hours ago

It's because the US is supporting Ukraine in fighting against Putin. In Israel, the US is supporting Netanyahu.

If we were funding Putin's war, you would see a different reaction. There's just less of a reason to complain if we're already against Russia as a country.

[–] Eiri@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 hours ago

Expectations.

People don't expect a country that's supposed to be a close ally to do actual pure evil.

Russia has always been in a different category. It's oscillated between being an outright enemy and being a distant, somewhat-ally the West is suspicious of. Either way, Putin was never someone you trust.

When someone betrays your expectations, you have a stronger emotional response.

When you feel like your country is actually helping with evil acts, that's another layer of emotional response.

But if someone you feel like you can't do anything about and has always been bad anyway is being evil, again... Well it's a bit of a "no shit, Sherlock" moment. Doesn't spark anger in quite the same way.

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Recency bias. Also anti-semitism. I don't mean that in the sense that any criticism of Israel is necessarily or logically anti-semitic. I mean it in the historical sense. Any time Western societies starts hating on Jews, we really, really need to reflect hard on why.

I know, we all think we are objective enough to separate the Jewish identity from the Israeli identity, but I'm not so sure. Jews are definitely not so sure. It would be interesting to see a study on the correlation between having general anti-semitic views and having negative opinions about Israel.