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Trump’s Pentagon pick Hegseth wrote of US military taking sides in ‘civil war’
(www.theguardian.com)
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Does he think the military is a monolith? There are plenty of people on both sides of the political spectrum. If anything the military will fracture in a civil war.
Not if the civil war begins after the Project 2025 personnel purge
Maybe, but from my experience in the army they’d have to purge more than half the force. And then you have lots and lots soldiers unaligned to your views with nothing to do. Rebel armies have been constructed with less.
Just saying.
They’re planning to use Schedule F to fire hired government employees and replace them with loyalists, regardless of their experience or qualifications. This wouldn’t apply to troops, but it would apply to the DOD.
Soldiers would be given orders by the loyalists. I’m assuming they’d be dishonorably discharged for insubordination if they refused to follow orders, but you’d know better than me.
The military has spent a good decade now training soldiers to know what an illegal order is and that they best ignore it.
Or else what, now? The threat of military and civilian justice doesn't work well in a system that will almost certainly be rigged to ignore anything illegal that a soldier does in the commission of Trump's orders. The entire indoctrination there relies heavily on the threat of military and DOJ proceedings, and once both of those are pretty well captured, there's really not much. We have a law that says the ICC can't prosecute American soldiers for war crimes - in fact, attempting to do so is considered an act of war.
I don't disagree that a lot of the military won't follow orders at first, but I think when some of them start realizing that their fellow soldiers are getting away with things that would normally be considered criminal, you'll see them starting to turn around on it. Corruption is a cancer and in this case, it's poised to be incredibly aggressive.
Time and time again the US military has been perfectly fine turning its weapons on Americans. I don't think we should have any faith in US military personnel standing up.