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What vendors make good dumb TVs or big monitors? (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by Nicro@discuss.tchncs.de to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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The EMMC on my PC-TV finally broke down and I'd like to replace it with something that doesn't run an OS or will predictably fail with a countdown. But dumb TVs are hard to come by and monitors come at a premium at that size. I want to run a PC (DP/HDMI) and an SBC (HDMI) with it. I also have an S2 satellite cable, but that's secondary. I'd like to have ~43", 16:9, 4K but without an embedded smart-hub, ideally running of eeprom-firmware, or just anything independent of write-cycles. But I can't find any good options online. Are there companies for this. Comments and recommendations welcome.

Edit: I'm EU, hence the DVB-S2 cable. Scepter would be great, but doesn't run on EU power.

Edit: I've pretty much settled on a philips 439P1/00. I'll give it another day, but it seems good. The PC over DP is my main focus and I can connect my own SBC for streaming. It lacks freesync but has adaptive sync and basic HDR. Being an office-monitor, it has no smarts and at ~600 bucks with consumer warranty and support it fits what I'm asking for well. Industry-signage wasn't really an option.

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[–] Fusty@lemmy.ml -5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

There is no meaningful data for the OS to capture if it used as a display for externally connected devices.

The only way to have 100% privacy on all devices is not have internet service.

[–] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Many tvs have microphones built into them or their remotes.

Some are even sending screenshots of what they are displaying to their backend servers.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2449198-smart-tvs-take-snapshots-of-what-you-watch-multiple-times-per-second/

[+] Fusty@lemmy.ml -20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I guess that you cannot read well so I will say it plainly, when a TV has no access to the outside internet over the lifespan of the TV, zero information or files will ever be uploaded and will stay on TV with no external copy existing anymore.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Also, those devices are always capturing data. So if/when they ever connect, that data will get uploaded.

This seems to be the key bit of the comment.

Outside of the examples listed, a more reasonable possibility is if someone else in your home (ex. A family member) connects it to the network. Also even if it doesn't automatically connect to a public network, well placed popups can also lead to mistakes.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There is no meaningful data for the OS to capture if it used as a display for externally connected devices.

Except that some of these devices are periodically "screenshotting" the screen and harvesting data from that.

Pair that with automatically connecting to open wifi networks and nothing is truly safe.

[–] lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 3 days ago

Username checks out. Your own article you linked dispels this.

the opt-out mechanisms implemented on LG and Samsung smart TVs are working

A better solution is to disconnect your Smart TV from the internet entirely... Smart TVs cannot utilize ACR when they are offline.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Some actively listen with a microphone though.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not everywhere, like Europe

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Are you sure?