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About a year ago I switched to ZFS for Proxmox so that I wouldn't be running technology preview.

Btrfs gave me no issues for years and I even replaced a dying disk with no issues. I use raid 1 for my Proxmox machines. Anyway I moved to ZFS and it has been a less that ideal experience. The separate kernel modules mean that I can't downgrade the kernel plus the performance on my hardware is abysmal. I get only like 50-100mb/s vs the several hundred I would get with btrfs.

Any reason I shouldn't go back to btrfs? There seems to be a community fear of btrfs eating data or having unexplainable errors. That is sad to hear as btrfs has had lots of time to mature in the last 8 years. I would never have considered it 5-6 years ago but now it seems like a solid choice.

Anyone else pondering or using btrfs? It seems like a solid choice.

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[–] suzune@ani.social 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The question is how do you get a bad performance with ZFS?

I just tried to read a large file and it gave me uncached 280 MB/s from two mirrored HDDs.

The fourth run (obviously cached) gave me over 3.8 GB/s.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

I have never heard of anyone getting those speeds without dedicated high end hardware

Also the write will always be your bottleneck.

[–] suzune@ani.social 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

This is an old PC (Intel i7 3770K) with 2 HDDs (16 TB) attached to onboard SATA3 controller, 16 GB RAM and 1 SSD (120 GB). Nothing special. And it's quite busy because it's my home server with a VM and containers.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I have similar speeds on a truenas that I installed on a simple i3 8100

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

How much ram and what is the drive size?

I suspect this also could be an issue with SSDs. I have seen a lot a posts around describing similar performance on SSDs.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 points 5 hours ago

64 gb of ecc ram (48gb cache used by zfs) with 2tb drives (3 of them)

[–] stuner@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm seeing very similar speeds on my two-HDD RAID1. The computer has an AMD 8500G CPU but the load from ZFS is minimal. Reading / writing a 50GB /dev/urandom file (larger than the cache) gives me:

  • 169 MB/s write
  • 254 MB/s read

What's your setup?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe I am CPU bottlenecked. I have a mix of i5-8500 and i7-6700k

The drives are a mix but I get almost the same performance across machines

[–] stuner@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

It's possible, but you should be able to see it quite easily. In my case, the CPU utilization was very low, so the same test should also not be CPU-bottlenecked on your system.