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[–] CowsLookLikeMaps@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

On top of that, every country in the world would have to be collaborating in keeping it a secret since the US of A isn't some special place where they uniquely occur.

Occam's Razor leads me to believe its yet another conspiracy theory.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah why are all the governments of Africa in the 20th and 21st centuries covering this up?

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Think of how many governments don't have the capability to do anything with a crashed alien spacecraft, know that richer countries are making money off this stuff, know that they gain nothing for handing it over, and just do it.

Can you imagine Hugo Chavez, or Fidel Castro, or Nassor, or the Kim family just calling up the US and being like "hey aliens are here, want to go get them and cover it up? No of course I don't want any money"?

All these pompous dictators just begging for a chance to go on CNN and brag how they stuck it to the US of A. All it would take is one. A single one of them to not play ball. Even democracies would do it.

190 countries. Most of them hating each other. All of them rivals. With every sorta government you can imagine. And not a single one of them has decided to not play ball. Hell we can't even get them all to agree on vaccinations.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Literally fucking Somalia. Would Somalia do it? What about Momar Gaddafi? The man was a lunatic who ruled a geographically massive country for decades. I don’t know how he’d spill the beans, but he certainly wouldn’t’ve kept quiet. How many coups have happened in the dense jungles of central africa and Southeast Asia as well as the Amazon?

Then there’s the unwilling pariah states. South Africa and Zimbabwe aren’t small countries. If the US government had been keeping all this hush hush apartheid South Africa and Rhodesia would’ve traded silence and compliance for aid and the arms to suppress the indigenous rebellion.

Like yeah it’s absurd to imagine all these wildly different countries doing the same thing about this. Like no of course they wouldn’t. And many couldn’t.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Imagine if North Korea had a crashed saucer. They'd be parading it out in the streets for the world to see and claiming it could destroy the US with one hit.

There's plenty of other countries that would do similar. Hell imagine how much money you could get for scraps? It would be all over the world and everyone would know.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

indigenous rebellion

You mean terrorism

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you really sticking up for apartheid South Africa and Rhodesia? You’re allowed to do that I guess but yikes nonetheless.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

That's a strawman if I ever seen one.

I didn't know black locals killing black locals and making them do things they didn't want to do was a good thing.

Terrorism is terrorism. Try defend the communist killing farmers and tribesmen.

[–] BlinkAndItsGone@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

On top of that, every country in the world would have to be collaborating in keeping it a secret

And that's why conspiracy beliefs always end up including a global conspiracy. It's like solipsism; the whole world has to be in on the deception or it doesn't work.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

On that front, Grusch actually claims that the Pope helped smuggle a crashed UFO out of Mussolini's Italy to the United States. Never mind that the Pope and Mussolini were allies...