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I bought a property near a church, about 30 meters. When I bought it and years before the bells were "off" and it's barely used.

Since a year they fixed the bell and clock and now it starts at 05:30 in the morning, 08:00, 11:00, 12:00, 01:00 and 18:00

For each 5 minutes very loud.

I talked with the people who work at the church and said it is a huge issue for me, especially cause I work nights.

They don't care and refuse to make it quieter and won't reduce the length of each time it starts the bells.

Long story short: I am in therapy since a year because I have a huge debt, I can't move away and I can't sleep anymore. I have no idea what I can do with my life I am afraid I am going to get even more mentally ill than I am now. Selling is also now no more option, who would buy a place where you can't fall asleep or if you fall asleep you wake up by massive bell noise.

The only time I sleep is when I can afford vacation twice a year...

My therapist wrote my insurance and they are thinking of giving me the oppertunity to sleep somewhere else for one to two weeks every three months. They will pay for it, but this can't be the solution?!

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[–] Grogon@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Just talked with the church priest just now. He can't do anything...

But now I have an idea, I might just play loud music outside while I am inside, stuff like Heaven Shall Burn or Breakdown of Sanity (legal volume on my ground).

In the hope church goers will be annoyed and talk with him out me making noise all day. Then we can make a deal and if he can't do anything I sadly can't either because I love listening to music during the day

[–] Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKJKQLe-ohU

Maybe you can arrange things so the agreement stipulates what KIND of music you end up playing all day.

[–] Bukkakechess69@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 7 hours ago

Die Läuteordnung kennst du bestimmt schon? Das die Glocken jetzt wieder gehen ist ja cool, und die können ja auch gerne zum Gottesdienst bimmeln wenn sie wollen. Aber am Ende kann sich die Gemeinde darauf einigen wann und wie laut die Dinger sind. Wenn da jetzt ein Nachbar der nicht schlafen kann zu der Gemeinde kommt und nett fragt ob das not tut dass die um 5:30 so laut sind dann muss man schon ein ganz schön dummes arschloch sein um zu sagen ‘ne fick dich ich mag laute Glocken und kann keine Uhr lesen’.

Was ich damit sagen will ist dass der Uhrschlag nicht besonders geschützt ist und komm’ ja nicht auf die Idee ein muezin zu werden, und/oder in eine Kirche einzubrechen bzw. wäre doch schade wenn da was passiert.

Du kannst natürlich auch in die Kirche eintreten und verlangen dass die mal neue Klingeltönen installieren.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I think that's a very bad idea. I think getting the congregation on your side is wise, but I don't think doing it by annoying them is a good approach. They'll just dig their heels in.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Just talked with the church priest just now. He can't do anything...

He can, he just doesn't want to.

[–] janonymous@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't think going on the offensive is going to help you. It's just going to alienate everyone.

I don't quite get how you still get woken by the bells if your house is isolated and you wear ear protection to bed. There must be a way to get your bedroom soundproof.

It sounds like your issue isn't just the sound of the bells. I've lived near a hospital with ambulances blaring students coming and going randomly at every hour. After a while we got used to it. Now, when I rewatch videos from back then I'm surprised to hear them, because they aren't in my memory. What I'm getting at is that your opposition to the sound, your anger, is drawing your focus. I don't think you can get used to them if they keep triggering strong emotions in you. It might be a long shot and I understand this isn't the solution you are looking for, but maybe you can get used to them eventually. Humans are really good at getting used to new conditions. You can't control your environment, but you can control your reaction to it. It sounds like some zen shit, and it is, but reducing your anger about the bells and accepting them as a new part of your life, might help you get your sleep back. There is no physical reason, why you shouldn't be able to sleep through the bells ringing. So, at least in theory, you should be able to change it by accepting it. I'm not saying it's going to be easy, but it should be possible and if you manage to do that, you will be able to handle similar issues as well.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 1 points 22 hours ago

I feel that making loud noise during "normal" sleeping hours to get back at the church for making noise during "normal" waking hours will backfire horribly on you.

It's probably just time to move.

The church was likely there first. The church bells (tho non-functional) were likely there first. So your property likely has less "jurisdiction". Like a building a house next to an established noisy bar/pub.
And considering you haven't been playing music loudly outside since you've moved in, it will likely be pointed out that this is in retaliation to the recent bells renovation.

It's just time to move.
Cope as best you can as you save up to move. Earplugs, basically.
You can research local noise laws, and track all times the bells violate them. But that's gonna be a long process.