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[–] nova_dragon@lemmy.world -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] nova_dragon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They intended to "gotcha" but you dodged.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It would have been a self-gotcha. But since they're consistent - as you were.

[–] nova_dragon@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I know what you were trying to do, and I understand your sentiment. However, ultimately, personal consistency doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, right? If I smoke cigarettes, I can still tell people not to smoke, right? My smoking doesn't undermine the science or the message. However, my concern is that this "KILL THE RICH" platitude has been so adopted by the online left that it's making us look, as a whole, like psychopaths; and, considering that, it's now beyond "individual consistency" and more in the territory of "stupid zeitgeist" that does more harm than good. Honestly, what I see right now is a bunch of LARPers that make the left look crazy, and I feel like, ultimately, that's harmful. The fact that I get so many downvotes is just kinda a reinforcement of this impression, as well. It's a sad time to be alive when widespread murder is the political chant, in any day/age... lest we become the monster, and all that. That's all.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

However, ultimately, personal consistency doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, right? If I smoke cigarettes, I can still tell people not to smoke, right?

You can tell people not to smoke but you'd be a hypocrite then. If a hypocrite is telling you not to do something they're doing - that's worthless.

You're saying: Take no violent action against those destroying the planet because we should respect all life. And you're vegan. So that consistency bolsters your message, downvoted though it may be.

[–] nova_dragon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"You can tell people not to smoke but you’d be a hypocrite then. If a hypocrite is telling you not to do something they’re doing - that’s worthless."

I couldn't disagree with the "worthless" thing more, even if I tried.

Yes, I would be a hypocrite, but calling someone a "hypocrite" is merely a personal attack on their character. Someone's character, ultimately, does not change the fact of the matter, which is that, in this case, smoking is harmful and you shouldn't smoke if you want to be in good health. The person telling you this being a hypocrite has no bearing on that whatsoever—it's intellectually fallacious to even suggest such a thing.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

it's intellectually fallacious to even suggest such a thing.

Is it.