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[–] Saint_La_Croix_Crosse@midwest.social -1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Unless you are a diehard right-winger, Liberals will always be more likely to betray you than anyone on the left. The causality is backwards here, liberals will always side with fascists over the left, thus they are identified as moderate-fascists. Just like how the Democrats want nothing more than to just be polite Republicans.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

anyone on the left

Tankies aren't leftists. Even assuming your statement is true, it doesn't matter.

liberals will always side with fascists over the left

Spanish Civil War.

thus they are identified as moderate-fascists

That's not how being a political ally works. That's just such a stupid take.

[–] Saint_La_Croix_Crosse@midwest.social -1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

yes they are, Tankie has become so abused and meaningless as now only means anything to the left of Dick Cheney or not going along with US foreign policy.

Spanish Civil War, where the Soviet Union was the only foreign power to give large amounts of aid to the Republicans and France and Britain sat out, and US oil and other business interests backed Franco. Where there were divisions over tactics and priorities but where communists fought with the Republicans, and it is largely after the defeat and popularizers like Orwell that a stabbed in the back myths about communists came to prominence. Yes, the liberals were not a complete monolith, so there were some liberals with the Republicans.

Also, in an underdeveloped, still mostly feudal society, liberalism can still be a progressive force.

I am being short and glib since I was just responding to an epically dumb post. but if you want to know how fascism is a necessary outgrowth of liberalism and the need to protect and serve capitalism leads liberalism towards fascism in crisis.

https://www.amazon.com/Apprentices-Sorcerer-Tradition-Critical-Sciences/dp/1608462021

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Spanish Civil War, where the Soviet Union

Purged the Anarchists, yes. That's actually the biggest example of why MLs should literally never be trusted more than liberals.

Edit: actually, why the fuck am I even continuing this discourse? You're obviously a lying piece of shit. Blocked.

[–] Saint_La_Croix_Crosse@midwest.social 0 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Purged the Anarchists? No you are the lying disingenuous person here. If we were talking about the Russian Civil War, you might have something approaching a point.

Edit: proving the point, hatred over "tankies" is just that you don't want your own positions or viewpoints challenged or questioned