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History Ruins

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What is a ruin? We’re running off of “You know it when you see it” at the moment. Ruins should be non-functioning structures of some age, or their function reduced to tourism and the like.

Generally speaking, specific items from a ruin should go to !historyartifacts@lemmy.world

Illustrations of ruins (or their reconstructions) should go to !historyillustrations@lemmy.world

Photos of ruins back when they were functioning should go to !HistoryPorn@lemmy.world

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[–] odium@programming.dev 17 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Why did you have to say that? Now my evening after work is gonna be spent looking at diagrams and videos of how this would work. I have no mental image of what a horse towing a barge would look like.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 33 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

Surprisingly simple! I grew up near an old towpath that was converted into a hiking trail.

The rope configuration keeps it straight despite the horse being 'off-center'.

[–] lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Fascinating. Thanks for the images!

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 5 points 15 hours ago

These are great! Thanks Pug!

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Also, when horses weren't available, people would pull the boats.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 14 hours ago

I figured the rudder would also be used to keep the boat straight.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Did these guys really walk directly behind these horses? Do they die when the horse freaks out and kicks?

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Well probably just kept an eye on it from the boat.

The real killer was when you approached a canal tunnel a few miles long with no side path. You'd send the horse on ahead to the exit of the tunnel with a rider, and then you and two of your besties would lay back against the top and sides of the boat with your feet against the tunnel arch and walk the boat through in pitch black darkness.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Yeah there was a post on Lemmy some time back about people doing this. You’d think they would keep a lantern handy for such an occasion though.

[–] odium@programming.dev 4 points 17 hours ago

muchos gracias

[–] GiveOver@feddit.uk 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Fun fact, an interest in canals is called "Gongoozling"

[–] icon4691@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Thanks for mentioning this! I just remembered that I learned it from "Rosemary & Thyme" The Gongoozlers (TV Episode 2004). Fun mystery series that I highly recommend.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 5 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

You're looking for canal boats. Back in Ye Olden Days, waterways were the preferred method of transporting cargo because land movement took much more effort (and also frequently involved hills and such). If a large industry cropped up in a place where it wasn't convenient or possible to recreate it elsewhere, and the landscape allowed it, they'd build a canal to allow easier shipping of larger amounts of material. They'd also sometimes build canals next to rivers, so that the water would be slower and it'd be easier for a boat to move both up- and down-stream. Think of places like the B&O Canal or the Erie Canal, or the Intercoastal Waterway.

It's possible for someone to barge-pole a boat around a canal, but a more efficient method was to have a horse or mule harnessed to the boat, walking right next to the canal. They'd walk the canal-side towpath, pulling the boat, while the humans then only had to steer the mule and the boat.

What's likely happening in this picture is that there's a cliff or some other hazard that prevents the towpath from continuing on the right side of the canal. A bridge would be very convenient there anyway, to move the mule to the other side of the river, and if you're building a custom bridge anyway, why not build it so that you don't need to really disturb the team anyway, they can just keep going? It's a really cool idea!

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago

A pair of horses or mules could move around 20-30tons of goods with a canal boat. The same pair would have a maximum load of 2-3 tons in a carriage.

Before trains, it was the most efficient way to move heavy loads over long distances.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Back in Ye Olden Days, waterways were the preferred method of transporting cargo because land movement took much more effort (and also frequently involved hills and such).

And nowadays they're parking lots of floating tiny-houses for people who can't otherwise afford to live anywhere near London, apparently.

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 2 points 14 hours ago

And for storing old shopping trollies.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

What do they do when another boat is coming in the opposite direction?

[–] SomeoneSomewhere 2 points 10 hours ago

Lift one boat's rope over the other boat.

[–] MY_ANUS_IS_BLEEDING@lemm.ee 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Wait for them to pass. These things move at like 3mph so you get plenty of warning