cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/22447069
The difference between Russian and American authoritarianism
this post was submitted on 26 Nov 2024
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Agreed except for the secret police part.
I feel like secret police are undercover cops who specifically enforce the laws or policy of secret courts.
A cop posing as a kid online to bait a sexual predator isn't "secret police" like the Stasi to me.
The Chicago blacksites seem like they would fit that description, they gave zero fucks about due process or civil rights, following their own law
Agreed. Undercover DEA agent busting up a drug ring (regardless of debate about what drugs should be legalized) is a bit different from a task force suppressing political opposition through imprisonment and "accidents ". Though I'm wondering if the gap with decrease over the next four years...
Count on it. I recall seeing videos of protestors around Trump's last year in office getting yanked into unmarked vans. I think it was around the same time he was using customs and border protection to do peacekeeping operations.
How about agent provocateurs infiltrating protests and instigating crime as a pretense for police to crack down?
Would that qualify?
Well...
Portland protesters bering dragged into unindentified vans... under trump
remember that
I disagree with the meme but like with project 2025, it could very well be a thing.
Therein lies the issue with Crying Wolf.
When the real US Secret Police is established next year, the alarm will already have been sounded and will therefore be less effective.
There's a big difference between the Stasi and the FBI. Granted, the FBI has been known to occasionally do Stasi-esque illegal shit (most notably assassinating MLK), but that's not their mission statement and what they do the vast majority of the time.
Again, you will probably be right in a little while when Project 2025 kicks in, but at present you're pulling the fire alarm because someone is unwrapping a toaster strudel.
You're either intentionally or unintentionally ignoring my point.
Goodbye!
Go back to reddit!
And who the fuck might you be, dear random stranger butting in to hurl abuse?
Someone who doesn't want the worst of reddit brought over to lemmy.
The worst of Reddit, in your mind, being good faith discussions?
Weird pet peeve, but okay.
"Goodbye" is not good faith. In fact, presenting it as good faith is not good faith.
That's the neat part of lemmy: You're not just screaming into the void - unlike reddit, people aren't interchangeable "random strangers". In fact, it's small enough you can see people around, recognize names, even get an idea of how they behave. You may even notice some people who habitually try and "bye" their way out of an argument that's going bad for them. And you may advise them to go back to the website where that works - for everyone's benefit.
Strangely you seem to have forgotten to read the entire thread, much like the other user.
Goodbye to you, too!
I take it you're raking the advice, then. Good.
To me secret police are plain clothes officers who drive ordinary looking cars until the hidden lights come on. They're literally keeping it a secret from the public that they're enforcing the law.
That's not a definition of "secret police" I've ever heard of, but you're obviously more than welcome to think of it that way. Just know that's not what the rest of us are referring to.
To the rest of us secret police don’t turn on the lights
It’s fbi/cia level
Tembah, his arms wide.
Seriously, what are you trying to express to me in your first "sentence?"