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Lets take a little break from politics and have us a real atheist conversation.

Personally, I'm open to the idea of the existence of supernatural phenomena, and I believe mainstream religions are actually complicated incomplete stories full of misinterpretations, misunderstandings, and half-truths.

Basically, I think that these stories are not as simple and straightforward as they seem to be to religious people. I feel like there is a lot more to them. Concluding that all these stories are just made up or came out of nowhere is kind of hard for me.

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[–] aLaStOr_MoOdY47@lemmy.world -4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Supernatural phenomena does not claim to have scientific merit. You are also assuming that science will eventually explain everything about everything. That it is the only existing truth. This is called scientism, and it oversteps science's proper boundaries.

[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Um.. no? Not what I said and not what I believe.

To quote professor Farnsworth: "The pursuit of knowledge is hopeless and eternal. HOORAY!"

We're always going to have things we don't know. The point is to build on the knowledge we do have and to slowly get better. What the belief in the supernatural does is actually the shortcut to "being able to explain everything about everything", because you're presupposing the answer without any proof or testing done. Sure, those things might be possible, but so might be waking up in the Pokemon universe tomorrow.

Until there's proof, I have no reason to act like there is. It's a fun game to think about, but it shouldn't hold any weight in how you see the universe we actually live in.

Also, the natural universe is weird enough already. Have you heard of the fine structure constant? Basically, we found this one constant number within all of these different fundamental formulas for how the universe behaves, but it doesn't have a unit associated. So, we know that it exists and can calculate it, but no one knows WHY it exists. We think it's a constant, but it might have changed over time, so we're trying to find ways to test that. We might never know, but those questions are far more interesting to me than "maybe aliens".

[–] aLaStOr_MoOdY47@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago

Yes, there's going to be stuff we don't know about. That's why I'm advocating for open-mindedness to supernatural phenomena. That's my goal.