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Come to think of it, the Jedi are kinda dicks, they prevented anakin becoming a master despite his obvious talented skills in saber combat and his power in the force.

Not to mention, lore wise they let mundi have relations with his family where as it would've been a kick out for anakin.

Lastly, the jedi were sorta arrogant for thinking that nothing was wrong or that they were perfect despite having literal counterarguments from rebellious masters, Qui Gonn being a good example of somebody smelling the bullshit that the jedi were involved in.

So my fellow sith lords and jedi knights, what say you?

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[–] ggppjj@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

I've always considered, seperate to this larger discussion, that the Jedi are saying one thing and believing another uncritically. They want to bring balance to the force... By eliminating the sith.

Balance. A state of equilibrium. Notoriously not very well known for existing in a system where one of two elements has been removed.

"Only a sith deals in absolutes". Complete unthinking hipocracy in the name of the light.

[–] ggppjj@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

"You were supposed to bring balance to the force"

Here's the prophecy:

Only through sacrifice of many Jedi will the Order cleanse the sin done to the nameless. The danger of the past is not past, but sleeps in an egg. When the egg cracks, it will threaten the galaxy entire. When the Force itself sickens, past and future must split and combine. A Chosen One shall come, born of no father, and through him will ultimate balance in the Force be restored.

Ultimate balance in the force really seems like it very well could mean "no more Sith and no more Jedi" to me.

[–] BlitzFitz@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

I think if you only watch the original trilogy, Jedi are the good, pure, saviors of the galaxy and rebels of the established order and the sith are evil overlords who rule by their own design.

When you watch the original you see how the Jedi appear good and balanced, but over the trilogy become less focused on ruling by laws and more on feelings. Clearly bypassing their own laws as it suits those in charge.

Subsequent tv series continuously adds to that mindset that the Jedi were flawed, and sometimes outright dangerous.

I always saw the Jedi assuming the chosen one myth was about the Jedi becoming the absolute rulers so egotistical, they were destined to fail.

And as flawed as the new trilogy is, it follows that path, leading to Rey becoming a true balanced force user, neither Jedi or sith. And both have seemingly been destroyed otherwise. So Rey is really the chosen one