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Lets take a little break from politics and have us a real atheist conversation.

Personally, I'm open to the idea of the existence of supernatural phenomena, and I believe mainstream religions are actually complicated incomplete stories full of misinterpretations, misunderstandings, and half-truths.

Basically, I think that these stories are not as simple and straightforward as they seem to be to religious people. I feel like there is a lot more to them. Concluding that all these stories are just made up or came out of nowhere is kind of hard for me.

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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My thoughts on supernatural phenomena?

Name one.

[–] aLaStOr_MoOdY47@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] aLaStOr_MoOdY47@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Neat I guess. Still not a real thing.

I see altered states of consciousness mentioned a lot. Basically means your brain isn't functioning like normal. It does not mean that you're able to move your consciousness outside of your body.

Go ahead and look up pseudoscience.

[–] aLaStOr_MoOdY47@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, like dive into his work. The gateway tapes, his books, his partnership with the CIA... etc. You should read the documents. Just a glance at a few Google results isn't enough.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You didn't look up pseudoscience, did you?

[–] aLaStOr_MoOdY47@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, if that's what they're calling it, they're right. It's not science now, is it? This is supernatural shit. I still recommend watching this video if you're feeling too lazy to research. The guy behind the channel is great for skeptics. Debunks what he can, leaves the unexplained for you to decide.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You definitely did not read about pseudoscience.

"Pseudoscience is a term used to describe a set of beliefs, practices, or statements that claim to be scientific but are not in line with the scientific method"

So it's doing things like creating documentaries, setting up organizations that sound like "the foundation for the discovery of knowledge", and then "collecting evidence" while never thinking critically of it, and then stating that there is overwhelming evidence for X. Real science, to discover real things about reality involves testing, doubt, peer review, and a description of events based on already foundational knowledge.

There is no evidence for paranormal or supernatural activity that both conclusively demonstrates that certain events are only supernatural/paranormal, and stands up to criticism and review. Full stop. Until such time it can be proven to exist, it can be dismissed as vacuous bullshit at best, and at worst a shameless grift.