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Why is it that compared to other mental illness's like depression, ADHD, autism and anxiety people seem to be so hostile to NPD? I always see things about 'mental health awareness' yet this is never applied to personality disorders.

Just look up "narcissism", "NPD" or "narcissistic personality disorder" and the results are about how dangerous people with NPD are and how to spot somebody with NPD or if your ex boyfriend is a narcissist etc... etc...

I was watching this video earlier by a YouTube user 'ShortFatOtaku' called "Low IQ Twitter Discourse Awards!" and there was this one guy on twitter who said that if you claim advocate for the mentally ill you such do so with personality disorders as well. A statement I completely agree with:

https://youtu.be/3EJedJ8MhNA YouTube

ShortFatOtaku response with "wow your going to let that narcissist kill you and take everything from you?" I shouldn't have to explain how bad faith and unhinged that is.

Why do people think this way about narcissists? Having NPD doesn't make someone an inherently bad person. As someone who has NPD I haven't abused or manipulated anyone ever. Sure, I struggle with empathy, I have to make an effort to think about other people and ok I have a never ending need for validation but that doesn't mean I'm a bad person I understand I have a problem I didn't choose to be like this. Manipulation and grandiosity are awful traits that I have but they don't define me. I'm a good friend, I'm a good sister, I'm a good coworker and there are people out there who benefit from my existence. NPD doesn't have to define me I'm more then my diagnosis.

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[–] dragonfucker 7 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

People don't understand that medicine is about helping the patient. They read the diagnostic criteria for NPD, and they don't understand that those things are only medically significant if they harm the patient. They think the criteria is a list of bad behaviour that hurts others.

Teach people what medicine is, and the stigma disappears.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

The D part of NPD is what is defined as harming the subject.

The N is the part the rest of us are worried about.

Most articles about spotting narcissists are not about spotting people with NPD. They’re about spotting narcissists. That’s a superset of NPD sufferers.

[–] m0stlyharmless@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

A major component of NPD is it's harm to the sufferer's interpersonal relationships. I think the behaviors that contribute to this, though diagnostically and medically relevant, are generally deservedly stigmatized.

This is, of course, different from the armchair diagnosing someone with NPD just because they exhibit some of these behaviors, which I do think contributes significantly to the stigma of mental illness.

Ultimately, someone with NPD is more than their diagnosis and can certainly be capable of interpersonal relationships that are worthwhile to all parties involved.

[–] dragonfucker 1 points 3 hours ago

I think the behaviors that contribute to this, though diagnostically and medically relevant, are generally deservedly stigmatized.

Sure, but only one of the nine diagnostic criteria is a behaviour. Most of them are feelings. Oftentimes bad feelings cause bad behaviour, but a bad feeling isn't enough evidence to call someone an abuser. If we start telling people they can't feel certain ways, we're basically inventing the concept of thoughtcrimes.

And yeah, people with NPD are very often attacked by neurotypicals for their thoughtcrimes.