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America voted in Trump so why the fuck would Biden give a fuck what they want anymore?
Totally. The American people betrayed Biden, personally, by tarnishing his otherwise spotless legacy and voting in his opposition. It doesn't matter if you personally voted Harris as nearly half of the people who voted did, America turned its back on our highest civil servant and now he has every right to spend his last remaining days in power by doubling down on his support of genocide, pardoning his own relatives, and doing fuck all to help us ungrateful proles.
Biden did a ton of good and Americans looked at Trump's first term and said why not give him a second?
Absolutely. Biden deserves to punish us all for our poor decision-making, and act only out of self-interest for the remainder of his term. That's the social contract we make with our nation's civil servants.
I don't think you read my comment that you are replying to.
Oh I think I did, and I couldn't agree with you more. We no longer deserve to expect anything good or helpful from our benevolent leader Joe Biden since the majority of us voted incorrectly. He has every right to sit on his hands and spend his few remaining days in office helping Israel commit genocide, helping his family get out of felony charges, and doing nothing to protect the nation from the damage Trump is about to cause. We are ungrateful little worms and he has every right to treat us as such.
Americans voted in Trump, why should he do anything to sabotage Trump's reign?
That's anti-democratic.
That disinformation campaign sure did a number on you guys.
Can't wait for Trump to come in and save Palestine!
Oh, again, I totally agree. Trump won't save Palestine, so we should accept that Biden is also not even trying. We don't deserve to hold any politician to a higher standard than what Trump can offer. Frankly, if we don't behave in the way our benevolent leader wants, then they are under no obligation to do anything to improve the country or do anything that their voters want them to do. That's freedom!
Edit - obvious sarcasm aside, Biden should do things like nominate judges for all those empty seats while the Dems still have the Senate. He should do things like direct the DEA to deschedule cannabis, a move that would be wildly popular with voters on both sides of the aisle and thus seems unlikely to be overturned. You know, helpful things that help people who weren't lucky enough to be born with the last name "Biden". He won't, though. And it's weird to just jump to January 6th. That's a weird thing to do.
So you think Biden should sabotage Trump's term?
That's not democratic, which I said in my last comment.
Americans want want Trump has to offer.
I never said that, I said that he has every right to act only out of self-interest for the remainder of his term and do nothing that would help us unworthy peons who didn't grovel at his feet when we had the chance. After all, and again I agree with you here, Trump certainly would behave no differently which gives Joe Biden and any future democrats every right to do the same and makes us entitled spoiled piggies for expecting anything else.
You really aren't reading any of my comments, are you?
Are you? When did I say that Biden should do any of those things? I've said quite the opposite, we don't deserve better because Trump won the most votes. That gives Joe Biden a license to spend the last few days in power completely ignoring any expectations that voters, even those who voted Kamala, have for him. After all, if we had only voted harder then we wouldn't be in this mess, so he has a right to punish us accordingly. This is democracy and this is freedom. We are in agreement on all of this.
It just reads like you want him to try to sabotage Trump's term, who has been democratically elected.
I thought this period was mostly getting things ready for the next president.
I'm sorry if you can't understand my sentiment, even though we are in complete agreement on all of this and I have been quite clear. Yes, absolutely, Biden should do everything to help Trump after insisting, repeatedly, for the past several years that Trump and his agenda are catastrophic threats to American democracy and safety. This will surely help public perception of democrats and their sincerity moving forward.
Do you think he should get a group of people together to try to subvert democracy and get himself another term?
Maybe he could hold a rally in DC on certification day.
What day is that again?
No, of course not. He should do the exact opposite. In addition to not doing anything to protect any of the marginalized groups who consistently vote Democrat, he should pose for photo ops with Trump, pardon his own family members, and do nothing to help the unworthy little piggies who couldn't be bothered to get other people to vote for him or for Kamala. The only circumstances in which we can expect Democrats to behave any better than Republicans is when it comes to respect for decorum, not actual policy.
I don't know where you're getting these ideas about my views, I've been in total agreement with you about these points this entire time. I'm just making the exact same argument you're making.
Edit - obvious sarcasm aside, Biden should do things like nominate judges for all those empty seats while the Dems still have the Senate. He should do things like direct the DEA to deschedule cannabis, a move that would be wildly popular with voters on both sides of the aisle and thus seems unlikely to be overturned. You know, helpful things that help people who weren't lucky enough to be born with the last name "Biden". He won't, though. And it's weird to just jump to January 6th. That's a weird thing to do.
You definitely haven't been reading my comments, then.
Oh, no, I read your comment asking why Biden should care what Americans want, since so many of us voted Trump. And you're right! Biden is justifiably disappointed by us and, as a result, has every right as a civil servant to completely ignore us and act entirely out of self-interest until he is out of power. That's the social contract we make with our elected officials; we elect them and they enact their agenda provided we only do things they personally agree with. When we are naughty, they get to punish us by abandoning the people who got them in power. Basic civics.
If you were in Biden's shoes right now what would you be doing?
I wouldn't change a thing because Joe Biden is obviously perfect. If someone disagrees, they must not be smart enough to understand. The solution to that, as all good liberals know, is to shame them until they vote better.
So you can't come up with a single thing you'd do differently?
If you genuinely think that then you haven't been reading my comments.
Haven’t I?
Yeah trump was pretty bad wasn't he.
Yes, which is why Biden deserves to ignore the well-being of the country, including his own voters, and act only out of self-interest for the rest of his presidency. We only deserve politicians who try their best when we the people do what politicians want us to do.
Less than 1/3 of American voters voted for the orange man. The rest were apathetic or thought virtue abstaining would "send a message".
Edit to add actual numbers. 32.1% of eligible voters voted for him. 22.9% of the total US population. We need to stop this all-or-nothing mentality. A tiny fraction of the population voted him in, while the rest tried (31.0%), or did nothing. That 32.1% is only true if the votes were legitimate, which seeing how fragile the voting system is across the US, it may not be, and we also may never know.
Trump won the election because America voted him in.
A subset of America. Life isn't all or nothing. Electoral College helped a bit, although he barely did win the popular vote this time thanks to the abstainers. By raw population numbers (including those that can't vote) only 22.9% of the US population voted for him. (32.1% of eligible voters, less than 1/3.)
He got 50% of the people who voted and those that didn't vote said they didn't care if he won.