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[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

And this involves only driving in summer when there is excess energy? Or getting through winter by storing enough hydrogen to make the Beirut explosion look like a firecracker in comparison?

[–] dragonfucker 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Just ship the hydrogen to the other hemisphere.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

That sounds fun. Not only are we already losing ton of energy to create the hydrogen, we can now lose even more and make it more expensive by trying to liquefy/compress it to make it somewhat transportable. [1]

Also, almost 90% of humans living in the northen hemisphere will surely not cause any issues to this plan. [2]

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You're not LOSING anything if it's capturing already excess energy, which would by its nature be lost if not used at the time of generation

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Neither solar panels, nor hydrogen generators are free. If you need to build extra panels and hydrogen generators, you are making the infrastructure more expensive, consequently raising electricity prices. Or hydrogen prices if you use it as fuel instead of power storage.

[–] dragonfucker 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Just ship the humans to the other hemisphere.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That's funny, but modern solar panel power plants don't care that it's winter. The panels rotate and an arid area isn't getting that much more cloud cover.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

The article says the ones it talks about do. Also, rotating panels can't stop days from being shorter during winter.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not saying it's not lower. I'm saying it's not nearly as big of a deal as people say it is.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

So what are you saying exactly? With what issue would using hydrogen help?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I'm just talking about winter vs summer capacity in desert solar installations.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Night? Longer periods of cloudy days or storms?

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

So we are not using it for cars, but to make electricity at night? Just even less efficiently than hydro pumped power? Ok...