What Russia wants from Ukraine is not territory, but submission (Anders Puck Nielsen) (www.youtube.com)

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I thought this was a very insightful video. Anders is often able to discern stark simple truths and their implications without falling into the trap of common misconceptions.

The prediction about what Russia will do on January 20th seems very likely to me.

Anders was one of the very few analysts that predicted Russia was going to invade in the months/weeks before their actual invasion.

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[-] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Russia is interested in submission ... of territory ... the entire territory of Ukraine (at some point in the future).

[-] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

That's what he's saying, that they don't need or even particularly want the territory, as long as they can make Ukraine be weak, afraid and doing their bidding.

[-] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

I was pointing out the contradiction in the title.

"What Russia wants from Ukraine is not territory"

Yes, it is. It's always comes back to land. Land is THE thing that every country wants. They're not making more of it, and everything derives from land.

[-] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Ok, I see... The land itself isn't the most valuable thing in Ukraine though. And Russia may be the country least interested in simple lebensraum. They want the benefits of that land, the people and resources on it. And what those two things produce and influence. And they can get those by subjugating the leadership of the country.