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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 76 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I wonder. I still talk about snowden being a hero and I get some yahoo arguing with me. heroes of the millenia.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Snowden was a hero. Though, seeing him endorse RFK Jr. was a little questionable.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

Shit. Thanks for the heads up. Still a hero even if he makes mistakes. Must be hard keeping up with stuff across the world.

[–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Snowden, and Greenwald by extension, are perfect examples of how being right about one thing doesn't make someone right about everything. I also have serious problems with how Snowden chose to whistleblow, though the actual whistleblowing was necessary.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Definitely made a deal with the devil. I can't say I wouldn't do the same in his shoes though, and I'm as anti-Russia as they come.

[–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There were a lot of options for non-extradition before Russia. Even the route he took when he fled doesn't make a ton of sense unless he's selling the information to America's security competitors. My guess is he genuinely believed in leaking the information and he got paid to do it by one or more foreign countries.

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

Well the US made a sovereign country president plane land with a threat they will shoot it down then grabbed out the president of a sovereign country from his plane and searched the plane for Snowden. There are probably 3 countries in the world the US wouldn't do this to: China, Russia and Israel. So no, Snowden didn't have much choice.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I'm beyond fuzzy on the details. I'll have to read a refresher honestly.

the pardon talk may have influenced him on that.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah Snowden disclosed important information in a responsible way; I don’t question his intentions. Assange on the other hand…

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That will be much more relevant in the coming days. Remember, autocrats give no fucks about even pretending to not be doing those things.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

What about decepticons?