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[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I feel like the NDP had their chance after Layton, but Mulcair didn't catch much attention from the electorate. The Supply and Confidence agreement was probably their chance for this decade.

Hopefully when they pick up a new leader they'll get better communications staff and start doing outreach.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

but Mulcair didn't catch much attention from the electorate.

That's quite the euphemism for "electing a neoliberal and moving right". And yeah, that wasn't helpful, especially after the NDPs biggest win in like, forever. Specially when that win came from Quebec...

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Was it policy, or taking a stance on "religious symbols"? I feel it's more the latter, but I can't remember much about that election.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

In 2011 Quebec voted almost unanimously for the NDP, convinced for once that they were on the same page as the ROC. It had nothing to do with religion, it was all about policy. Somehow after that the NDP thought it would be a good idea to replace Layton with a Liberal from Quebec that no one liked and move the party to the right.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

After the 2015 election, Mulcair said:

"[The niqab] hurt us terribly. It was measured. I can share with you that the polling we did showed we dropped over 20 points in 48 hours here in Quebec because of the strong stand I took on the niqab,"

As the rest of the mea culpa states, the NDP made lots of mistakes. The niqab footgun was the easiest to see because of the immediate and angy reaction, but the others clearly hurt as well.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Mulcair can say that if he wants, but I guarantee you the move to the economic right while insisting on idopol is what sank them. At the exact same time the most popular politician in Quebec was Amir Khadir, an Iranian, running for Quebec Solidaire.