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Most people didn't believe the fascism stuff. Democrats have used that in literally every election in my lifetime. They got played by being the little boy who calls wolf.
Then Harris told the working class that nothing would change and Trump promised lower grocery prices. It doesn't matter that he was lying his ass off. Most people are not politically engaged enough to know there was zero chance of him keeping that promise.
And unfortunately this isn't an election where only the politically educated get to vote. All of those points are bangers in your local university bar with political science students and professors. But all the common person sees is the guy who was president the last time they could afford stuff saying he'll bring that back.
So yeah, Harris needed to actually do some campaigning, not just fear monger.
Is it the dems fault for calling reps what they are (and, news flash, have been for a long time)? Or is it your fault for allowing the reps to normalize fascism in your mind to the point it’s no longer a valid point?
For the record she did a fuck ton of campaigning and spent more time speaking with actual voters than the media and whatnot, she laid out detailed plans but no, it was because she spoke reality that Donny is a bad man and wants to do bad things. Was she not supposed to say anything about him at all? Not allowed to speak on the greatest threat to American democracy ever?
You the voter hold responsibility here as well. Oh but you got bored of being scared of fascism and now full-on fascism is here.
I'm sorry but Bush, McCain, and Romney were not fascist. Bush allowed more elections which is the big thing everyone's afraid of. Trump is an actual danger, which is the story of the boy crying wolf. When the wolves actually come people don't believe the boy. And political scientists have been warning the Democrats about that for more than a decade.
And no. The voters are not political professionals. Treating them like they are is naive at best.
And Bush invaded Iraq with such a honest justification. Looking from outside of USA, this ’Democrats crying wolf’ narrative just seems dumb; it’s acking to Obama being elected just because of Republicans crying for communist for the nth time. I mean e.g. what are the examples for McCain been called fascist? The Hills’s example was Madonna in a concert! And that the more serious examples in history are more of type of stupid one offs rather than more cohesive phenomenon.
Though I do not completely dismiss that this couldn’t be a factor but media are really trying to find the silver bullet of explanations which imho just doesn’t exist.
As I've had to tell other people, Democracy is plenty capable of doing bad things. Jumping straight to Fascism in a system where there are still open and fair elections is ridiculous.