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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My dishwasher was caked in that white film that denotes very hard water when I got it. Came with the house. Literally did not clean anything put in it. Found some stuff online called Afresh. Comes in tablet form. Tossed one into the machine ran an empty cycle and now it works like it should

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think you're talking about lime scale.

I'm pretty sure the afresh just descaled your dishwasher.

Many dishwashers have a dedicated spot for a "rinse aid" like jet dry, and I'm pretty sure that is just a prevention method for this exact problem.

IDK, I'm not a scientist or anything.

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not a scientist either, but from what I remember from reading the manual; rinse aid helps with drying the dishes, makes it so that water don't stick to them as well. Added dishwasher salt is what helps with lime scale. My dishwasher has a separate salt container, and I then tell the dishwasher how hard my water is and it will add the appropriate amount of salt to the water.

Feel free to correct me if I got it backwards.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

I couldn't possibly correct you because I don't know enough to know what I'm doing myself.

Since neither of us are scientists, we might have to patiently wait for someone to come along who is, that can straighten out facts here.

[–] pixelscript@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

Rinse aid is what we call a surfactant. It disrupts the surface tension of water, which in turn lessens its ability to cling to surfaces.

You know how when you get a smooth surface of glass or plastic wet, there will be a lot of beads of water that just cling there and don't go anywhere? Unless they grow big enough to start finally running down the side? That's surface tension in action. Adding the rinse aid will reduce water's ability to bead up like this on dishes. Instead, water will be more likely to run down the surface in unbroken sheets instead of beading up.

The primary intent is that more water will simply drip off the dishes due to gravity. This does make dishes come out dryer after a drying cycle, and/or decreases the time the drying cycle takes or the energy it requires to get the same effect. But the main reason wanting water to drip off of dishes is to prevent limescale on them.

When water evaporates, only the water disappears into the air. Anything that was dissolved in that water gets left behind. If your water is hard, that will mean there's a bunch of calcites that will stay behind as a whitish powder called limescale. So if you wash dishes with hard water, let the rinse water stay beaded up on them, and dry it out via only evaporation, you get some limescale buildup on them in the form of so-called "water spots".

If instead you add rinse aid, more of the water will drip off the dishes, taking all the dissolved calcites with it. Less water has to evaporate, fewer calcites are left behind on the dishes, so less limescale and fewer water spots. Thus why many brands of the stuff show photos of crystal-clear glass on the box. A water-spotted glass will be cloudy and speckled. Rinse-aided glass will--supposedly, anyway--be clearer.