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[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 58 points 2 years ago
[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 years ago

a hug majority of americans refuse to learn of how people like murdoch have been fucking over the anglosphere; so you have to be patient with people just now starting to question this decades long anticipated conclusion.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

It predates Murdoch. Not to downplay him. There are plenty of valid criticism of Vladimir Lenin and acolytes, as well as their imperialistic annexation of much of eastern Europe. But the red scare was/is used to unjustly smear all the non Lenin aligned left. And set the groundwork for Murdoch. He'd be much lesser in its absence.

[-] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Feels like less people are questioning it, honestly. I’ve been politically observant for over 20 years now and this is as bad as I can remember.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

As someone who's got a little more than a decade on you in this instance. In some ways it's worse. Some ways it's better. A lot of the ways where it seems worse is just so much of it is out in the open. It's not new. But people could ignore it.

It's like all the rubes that think that since we've suddenly started being aware of autism. That somehow autism rates have exploded in recent years and it must be some nefarious plot. Rather than we didn't have good definitions and diagnosis of it previously and a lot of it went undiagnosed.

All these fascists and Nazis didn't pop fully formed from nothing. They've ALWAYS been here.

And while the right wing consolidation of mass media is worse now than ever. The internet has also given leftist spaces more reach and accessibility. Which is good. Though not without problems of it's own. As many latch on to violent oppressive nominally left wing ideologies. Seeking simple solutions to complex problems.

It's easy to become overwhelmed, numb, and detached. Make no mistake, we've got years of what should have been an avoidable shit storm coming. But the thing to consider. Whether you're an easily manipulated, bigoted, or xenophobic right winger/conservative or a staunch lefty. We all agree that government isn't serving us. And more and more of these manipulated conservatives are starting to realize that these corporations etc are the enemy. It's why the recent assassination struck a chord. The more of them that break and wake up. The more we reach. The more perilous the wealthy's position gets. The more possible change becomes. There doesn't have to be violence. Unfortunately there will be violence. But once the wealthy think there is a real possibility. They could face repercussions. Change will happen.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

agreed and it's probably why this sort of slop has extended beyond the anglosphere into the rest of the european cultures as evidenced by france & germany's lurch to the far right election victories.

[-] psychothumbs@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Terminal means fatal, hopefully that's not a certainty yet.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I’m aware of what terminal means, we’ve been that since 2016

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