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Straight forward question. If leftist hate the Democratic Party so much, why don’t they all come together and create their own party. Have their own primaries, campaigns, candidates, etc.

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[–] countrypunk@slrpnk.net 11 points 4 days ago (4 children)

There already are multiple leftist parties in the US. The Green Party is the main one, but there are others.

The issue is that they don't get much press coverage, and a lot of people use the argument that if leftists split off from the Democrats and divide, then the Republicans will win. That keeps a lot of people from voting for those parties.

[–] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Your greens are heavily compromised, if I’m not mistaken.

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Jill Stein has had dinner with Putin, so yeah, just a wee bit.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 15 hours ago

no, she didn't.

[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Ranked choice voting could help with this.

[–] countrypunk@slrpnk.net 7 points 4 days ago

A couple of states do have ranked choice voting, but it definitely should be implemented for all.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

A bit, but Star Voting is better in every way (except awareness).

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The Green Party is not leftist.

[–] countrypunk@slrpnk.net -3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

What is your reasoning for this? According to their very own website, they support a lot of common leftist talking points.

From their Wikipedia page:

The party promotes green politics, specifically environmentalism; nonviolence; social justice; participatory democracy; grassroots democracy; anti-war; anti-racism.

[–] ZDL@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 days ago

Are you confusing what parties claim with what they actually believe and will actually do?

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What they say and what they do are different things.

[–] countrypunk@slrpnk.net -3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I mean, it's not like they're able to do much because they don't have much political power. I'm genuinely curious as to the things that they have done that make you say that.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 days ago

Only attempting relevance during a presidential election, then quickly disappearing after is the only bit needed.

  • No member of the Green Party has ever been elected to any federal office.
  • only 3 have ever been elected to any state office.
  • they have had about a dozen people elected to small offices, town level.
  • Their prevalence in presidential elections greatly outsizes their representation in any other position, and have been shown to pull votes from Democrats.
  • There have been numerous documented instances of Republican candidates/their team coordinated directly with the Green Party.
  • Russia has covertly promoted the Green Party online for about a decade.
  • Stein has repeatedly appeared on Russian media.
  • One of the VP candidates actually called NATO "gangster states"
  • Stein claims Russia was provoked into invading Ukraine - a talking point straight out of Russia.

The Green Party is a tool of the Republican Party, nothing more.

[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But who is this Dems voting base? Are they mostly liberal? If so, they wouldn’t go anywhere else anyways. But I feel like they’ll be a lot of disenfranchised MAGA voters by 2028, that would be willing to support anything other than the democrats.

[–] bahbah23@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Right wing media would immediately jump on promoting the alternate party as horrible communist socialist liberal whatever other words they like to use to scare an anger their base, and the net result would be the same.