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https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2024-10-09/car-brands-are-tracking-and-sharing-your-data-with-third-parties/104440742
Tesla is the worst, but it's also a good idea to avoid Hyundai and Kia.
Ah let me just take a big sip of coffee as I sit behind the wheel of the 2024 Kia Sorrento I just bought last month and open up the Comments Section-
You might be able to just pull out the SIM card from your glove box. It needs a cellular connection to share data, but without a SIM card it can't get data.
Not sure if it has any ill effects (ie: disabling emergency response stuff) but might be worth it depending on how privacy conscious you are.
Do they still use physical SIM cards?
I would expect them to use eSIM instead, no need to psy a worker or design a machine to shove a SIM card in every head unit, and pay for the production of the cards when you can just transfer an eSIM during programming.
The glove box? I’ve never seen a SIM card for something like that being in the glove box (you should never need to mess with it normally).
Generally all that stuff is tucked inside/around the head unit. I know my friends veloster had it all in the radio “unit”. When you removed the heat unit the box came with it. Same for my Outback, for that I needed to make a custom cable to fully remove it.
The only reason you should buy a Kia or Hyundai is because you absolutely and literally can't buy anything else.
They are garbage cars riddled with problems you can avoid almost all of by adhering to only owning one so long as the bumper to bumper lasts. You may have issues, but at least you won't have any financial burden caused by their issues. An economy car should not be had under the same guidelines as a German luxury car.
Buy a Honda, Toyota, or Mazda; in that order. I say that as a Mazda fanboy.
Buy a Surly.
I could not disagree more. The privacy element is the only reason I would consider anything other than Kia or Hyundai cars. Japanese brands have been too slow to pick up EV tech and don’t have good affordable options like Korean brands do.
I would rank Subaru above Toyota in that
This is an awfully car based conversion for here
Tesla is pretty bad, Tesla employees were found a while ago to have been passing around sexy video from their customers' cars
But they are better than every other brand in one way: they let you opt out.
Tesla let you refuse connection between your car and Tesla, then they can't see you, can't track you and you can't get over the air updates or streaming media from the car (the car's cell connection is disconnected)
I don't exactly think holding hostage updates and functionality at the expense of user privacy makes them "better" than anyone. If anything, it's worse, because it shows malicious intent rather than mere oversight or lack of care.
The owners can still get updates, they'll just have to go to a service centre to get it installed, like other brands drivers have to do regardless
Would privacy conscious drivers believe the car wasn't reporting to Tesla if it could still get over the air updates?
The owners could have the choice of having the functionality they want, rather than pettily removing functionality if they won’t let you store all their personal data.