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But even in the Far East it is known that the AfD and BSW will only indirectly influence Germany's future international positions. The SPD is seen as open to stronger economic relations, while the CDU and especially the Greens are seen as hostile. Interestingly, the Chinese party press describes the Greens as "ultra-right".

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The American green party is outright electoral onanism. They seek few offices below the presidency and govern essentially nothing. Sure they talk about being pro this or anti that, but it's purely hypothetical. We can't know how they would govern until they have done any.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The American green party is outright electoral onanism.

jesus fucking christ, if you want people to understand you, use more commonly used words. No one is impressed that you know what onanism is, just say "masturbation" or "jerking off" or "self gratification" or something jesus.

But it's so self-gratifying 😩

[–] theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

They have more lower office holders than all other third parties. But go off on your 1980s era propaganda. It sure worked for you guys this past election... And in 2016....

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They have existed for 40 years and never held federal office nor ever won state level office as a green and remained green . The 8 state level folks that have ever served in 40 years consist of hilarious shit like winning as a green and then switching parties and winning as a dem switching to green and losing.

It is literally 40 years of continuous failure with absolutely nothing to show for it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Green_politicians_who_have_held_office_in_the_United_States

[–] theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's better than any other third party. And given you're voting for the corporate destruction of the planet if you vote dem or repub, they're the choice to go with if you're not yet ready for PSL.

Sorry, no one with a conscious can vote either dem or repub. That leaves third party voting for those that still want to waste an hour one every couple of years.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It's nothing. Absolutely nothing. Worth nothing. Accomplished nothing. It's like its a wonderful life but as if George Bailey walked around town and found out that everything was as good or better without him.

[–] theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And yes still does far more good than voting dem

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Voting Dem gave us clinton obama and biden 20 years where we didn't have amazing progress but did make small movement in the right direction and avoided 20 years of abject stupidity. We are far healthier and more prosperous than if we spent 40 years pissing away our votes on nothing.

[–] theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The movement in the right direction was the single greatest increase in wealth inequality in history, resulting in today where wealth inequality is at its highest point in the last 3000 years?

No, we are not healthier, no more prosperous.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

We are healthier and wealthier than if we had 40 years of Republicans. Much of the negative moves you are bitching about are under Reagan, Bush sr, Bush jr, and Trump.

[–] theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Nope, straight fucking line. Hell the 2008 financial crash was exclusively due to Clinton rolling back Republican signed into law regulations.

Dems are not the brakes, they're the good cop in good cop bad cop; and as we all know all cops are bastards.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

We have incompetent cop and psycho murderer cop. Wherein we can't actually pick a good cop keeping psycho cop out is vital

[–] theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You misunderstand the metaphor, both cops are corrupt and trying to do you harm, one just pretends to be nice while doing it.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I did understand. The idea that both are equally problematic is just so laughably stupid.

Then you're too rich and white to be in this discussion.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Than other third parties... Exactly what percentage of elected offices in the US are held by third parties?

Keep working on that third party strategy. It sure worked for you guys this past election... And in 2016.... and in every other damn year.

[–] theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A very small percentage, because people like you prefer fascism to democracy.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you say so. My strategy has gotten a hell of a lot closer to hurting the establishment than any of yours though.

[–] theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes voting for the establishment does hurt the establishment. Liberals have the weirdest logic sometimes.

Did you vote for Joe, never had a real job but is a multi millionaire Biden or Kamala, personally provided slaves for private corporations Harris.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are you implying the alternative is the absolutely nothing candidate of Kamala or even Biden? Democrats guilt tripping over not voting for the one of the one parties is insane.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Did you see me guilt trip anyone? I'm just mocking your unbelievably self-unaware rant attacking people who did vote for a candidate that had a chance. I don't do guilt trips, but stupid is as stupid does.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

lol you should read the thread before you respond bud

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just read the whole thread again. No guilt trips, or anything that could be interpreted as guilt trips. Nothing even close really. Persecution complex much?

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com -1 points 2 days ago

You’re still responding to the wrong person😆

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So we're on the same page, https://www.gpelections.org/greens-in-office/

I see a few city councillors and a smaller number of townie mayors. One of the three mayors runs a place with a population of sixty. I've voted for greens and will again, but what I'm seeing doesn't match the bravado on display.

[–] theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's still better than any other third party. They have the best chance among third parties, right now, to get to the state and then federal level.

The biggest third party in the US, or the biggest snowball in hell? I'll keep voting for em, but there's no reason to get excited.