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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think what you're missing is that for most Socialists, electoralism has already been proven as a losing game to begin with, and is far below the minimum requirements to enact change. Real power comes from organizing, which is why Leftists always push for it (and when it happens, they get results).

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think what people are missing is Trump/Vance being the worst possible outcome. But yes, real power does come from organizing - not from sitting in front of a screen "raising awareness".

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The worst possible outcome is really perpetuating this horrible system to begn with.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I agree, which is exactly what refusing to participate does. Lazy rationalizations help the oligarchs as much as money and brainwashing.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Participating in the electoral system also perpetuates it, the Capitalists don't care who wins because they already approve of both major parties.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Okay if changing the system through the system is impossible then what's your plan?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Revolution, which requires worker organization and the building of dual power, as has been done successfully in many countries.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 days ago