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Article is a response to the paper:

“THE SUSTAINABILITY SOLUTION TO THE FERMI PARADOX”

https://arxiv.org/abs/0906.0568

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[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 72 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Their sustainability solution states that we don’t see any evidence of ETIs because rapid growth is not a sustainable development pattern. From this perspective, the Kardashev Scale is rendered futile. No civilization will ever use all available energy from its planet, star, or galaxy, because the growth required to reach that level of mastery is unsustainable.

I think that makes so much sense. I don't think it makes sense to define "advanced" as a civilization that grows at a rapid and exponential rate, like a plague of locusts, depleting nonrenewable resources and causing irreparable damage to the only human habitable planet known to exist in the entire universe. Even if it can be considered advanced, it should also be considered extremely unwise.

[–] kalkulat@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When I was a young teem, a teacher put a slice of apple in a sealed container with a few fruit-flies. A week later, there were hundreds of fruit-flies. In another week the bottom of the container was covered with the bodies of fruit-flies. Quick, unforgettable lesson.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah. Shoulda stolen the apple slice before the flies got to it.