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Public transportation in the USA sucks shit and it should be improved before unleashing a congestion toll.
Mass transit in Manhattan, and NYC as a whole, is actually a very good system, that just needs upgrades.
It's a good system in terms of "if you look at the map and see all the places it goes". You ever use it daily though?
I used it for two weeks daily while there on a work trip. Worked fine, far better than my hometown, which still has a pretty decent system. I'd say its about on par with what you see in Paris.
The main complaint is that it's absolutely filthy and decrepit. MTA has major corruption issues. The same subway cars in use now can be seen in movies from the 1970s (e.g. The Warriors). Service unreliability is a thing as well. It is not pleasant to use for actual daily commuting for years at a time. You can actually notice an increase in how many communicable diseases you get. I'm out of the area now and literally shudder a little thinking about using it again.
PATH going to New Jersey - an example from the same area - is about 10x cleaner, and seems very reliable. Lower volume, but that shouldn't change anything.
My brother lived way out in Brooklyn and commuted to Manhattan for decades. Never had a car the entire time. Apparently New York's public transportation isn't a big issue.
Don't put the cart before the horse. The Wikipedia article says that "The Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) estimates $15 billion in available capital will be generated by bonding revenues from the tolls, which will be available to fund repairs and improvements to the subway, bus, and commuter rail systems."
I take it you've never heard of new york, then?
NYC has one of the biggest public transportation systems ever built
Travel to Japan and visit any large metropolitan area equivalent to NYC. Yeah, that's the dust trail left behind by the Japanese.
Yeah that's a good point. Also, the congestion pricing could fund improvement to public transport And motivate a change in perspective for the residents.
Wendover productions did an interesting video on this recently.
How are you this way?