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[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Just gonna point out the obvious - this "tribal lifestyle" you speak of would be amazing... for about 1% of the population that would be happy with a subsistence agrarian lifestyle.

For the other 99% of us it would create more problems than it solves. How do you have any form of technology whatsoever without organisation, which requires regulation, and regulators, which we call government.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

tribalism noun

  1. the state or fact of being organized in a tribe or tribes

  2. the behaviour and attitudes that stem from strong loyalty to one's own tribe or social group

It doesn't have to be a hunter-gatherer society. Focus on what's around you instead of what's far away. Local news. Local elections. Local businesses. Local friends.

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

That would work even less. Thats a breeding ground for oppression, lying, control of knowledge etc on a much bigger scale than we have today. Think the catholic church in the middle ages, or to go smaller incase of your tribalism, lords and small towns. It just wont work how you imagine it would

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Do they make antibiotics in your neighborhood?

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

You can still trade with other people.

The meaning of what I'm saying is to focus on problems you can affect, not ones that only affect you as much as you let them.

Slacktivists won't like this, though.

[–] The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Slacktivists won’t like this, though.

Yeah, and unfortunately most people fall in that category. Just need to look at how many people say "we need another Luigi", and "someone should Luigi Elon/Zuckerberg/whoever", it's always someone else who should do something while they remain online making memes. Sometimes it's the government who "should do something about global warming, while I keep choosing to follow a meat based diet that is more expensive and much worse for the climate than a plant based one, because I shouldn't have to do anything!"

Someone else should always do something about the thing, because heaven forbid those people actually do something and give up some comforts.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

It sounds like you mean we should focus on impacting and supporting our local communities. That is definitely something more of us should be doing.

It's the use of the word "tribalism" that's putting people off. That word has connotations that (I don't believe?) you intended. To a lot of us, it's a pejorative term that refers to the mindset of a small group that's fiercely hostile to other groups (while only being protective to their own.) A group with a "tribalist" mindset is likely a bubble of xenophobia.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Which tribe will run the pharmaceutical manufacturing plant and who assures they won't put poison in it to wipe out a rival tribe?