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[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (4 children)

Like you’ve mentioned, real public spaces have been killed so by quitting FB and other corpo social media you effectively self-ostracise as there are little alternatives. Yeah, you’re playing their game but when you’re losing you need humility rather than some moral high ground. If you want to affect the change you need to talk to people.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

There is no talking. There is no convincing them to change. Let them rot where they sit. Let them die off in their old folks homes, hating the kids and the queer. It's not our job to sit on Facebook and leading them in a round of kumbaya. Since you can't protest a private social media network effectively on that network, you just walk the fuck away.

But don't delete your account, before you simply never login again, upload as much high def white static video as you can.

Screw Facebook and their advertisers. They don't need our eyes while we tried to tell some racist bigots that they're racist bigots.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 1 points 34 minutes ago* (last edited 32 minutes ago) (1 children)

You’re not going to win by waiting for old people to die off. We reproduce in lower numbers than before and tendency to go disillusioned as you grow older remains a constant. Currently that disillusionment is being harvested by far right but that’s entirely on how the left lost credibility in the west after allying itself with liberal elites.

We won’t get ourselves out of this ditch unless we stop participating in culture wars manufactured for us by those elites. Normal people don’t care about queers but society is so polarised that they assume default stance from their political tribe. When you say they should die off you only strengthen their belief. It was never about this but more serious underlying issues that we’re not addressing because it’s a proxy war that’s supposed to distract us from a bigger war by the rich against the regular people.

I’m not saying we need to abandon traditional gender and minority emancipation goal but we need to be mindful of priorities. Meta employees are more outraged about new hate speech policies but they didn’t care when Meta enabled genocide in Myanmar. See how skewed it got? People don’t like hypocrisy.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 minutes ago

You are grossly wrong.

We don't get disillusioned at the same rate we used to. The leading edge of Gen X's in their '50s and they give a fuck about everybody.

Normal people do give a shit about LGBTQ, only these weird conservative assholes don't.

Fuck Facebook, everybody out of the boat. Leave it like Twitter.

[–] Glasgow@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

It’s so weird to me that people still use Facebook. Nobody under 40 uses Facebook. The women use insta sure but literally what are you going on Facebook for. It’s only boomer hate groups on there now

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Real life exists dude. Facebook isn't the only place to talk to people.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz -1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 47 minutes ago)

Agreed but we invented other forms of communication for a reason. [edit] All I’m saying is - don’t roll over and let them win by default. You don’t have to use corpo social media in good faith. Break rules and fight back.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Okay, let's be clear about this: staying on Facebook isn't "humility." It's selfishly selling out to simp for the fucking enemy.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz -5 points 10 hours ago

That’s the moral high ground speaking. I was like that too but at some point it was too hard to not notice that it wasn’t very effective. I’m pretty sure grannies on my local FB arthritis support group have bigger problems than navigating ethics of social media and politics.