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I think the should also drop usb sticks with libraries full of basic facts that NK soldiers may have never seen.
Perhaps occasionally a cheap e-reader as well. Can't inform them when theyre in NK, but now that they're there and youre already dropping leaflets, might be useful to try to deprogram them as well.
If they don't get seduced into surrendering, they have a higher chance of getting caught with their pants down.. Regardless, I see it as a great way to cause confusion and disorder, anyway.
Perfect to cut through all the meth
Or spray almost pure LSD solution over their position and watch the mayhem from a distance which blasting the area with porn noises.
That sounds like the kind of plan the cold war era CIA would have come up with.
You mean did. We legit did dose a platoon blast music at them while screaming orders to see how it effects ability to fight. It's on video and kinda funny if not for the whole murdery purpose.
English - https://youtu.be/82CYPWny3FE
Usa - https://youtu.be/vbSEU8Hv4lA
Yeah, though I think the LSD would make a big fucking difference (and I think they were referencing MKULTRA)
The second video is literally from a mkultra program.
Ed: that test lead eventually to this under mkultra
https://youtu.be/4rW0wqSUx-E
Yeah, don't do that. Anyone who has taken LSD and isn't a complete psychopath could tell you that this is evil shit.
Totally evil, almost impossible in practice, probably forbidden by the rules of war (which Russia shits on, weaponizing rape for example) but well... WELL deserved.
Whatever people are in the trenches deserve pity but are complete brainwashed psychopaths.
Only if they're notified that they've ingested a psychedelic drug, and that they will be ok in ~12 hours.
People are still people, and dehumanizing them only furthers the goals of authoritarians/fascists.
Being dosed with a powerful psychedelic, without ones knowledge, is one of the most inhumane things I can imagine that doesn't involve direct physical contact.
A bad trip isn't fun even in the best of familiar environments. On the battlefield, it would lead to a very unpredictable situation in an already chaotic environment.
Psychedelics are so different from person to person, it could be extremely inhumane for some, but the exact opposite for others. In other cases, you might actually be improving the reflexes and eyesight of your enemy. (For example, my visual acuity gets substantially better and it's much easier for me to identify shapes against camouflage as an example.)
If no combat action is planned against a drugged opponent, it becomes much more humane in that regard. That entire division would absolute out of commission but trying to capture them could become even more dangerous. It's easier and cheaper to pin an enemy with a stream of bullets flying over their head, TBH.
Sorry, I am basically thinking out loud.
After thinking through a few scenarios regarding psychedelics, it would be pointless in most cases as the risks are higher than the rewards as its application would be extremely niche and would have to be combined with some other kind of deep psychological coercion. Otherwise, bullets and explosives are equally effective against someone who is drugged and someone who isn't.
Yeah.... those poor bastards probably had to endure a violent family as children (drunk dad, suicidal mom and generally a "boys will be boys" attitude against violence of all sorts.
The war could end by simply stopping any trade with Russia and forcing china to do the same if they want to continue business with the West. But then money would be lost, and that is the true war crime of our time.
I wouldn't
(it's just shit for other reason)
Well yes, if the logistics are robust enough, that would be preferable.
Edit but like genuinely the history of democracy and revolutions and whatnot would prolly be good to add for some post-wank reading material to spur on rebellious thought, even for people who don't surrender. inception
Cram as much porn into old smartphones and drop those.
Since porn is pretty quickly produced, we need to get a new sub category of porn where Western actors teach democratic history while having orgies
Finally, I can use my Sexy Ben Franklin At the Beach cosplay for good and not evil.
"Oh, fuck me like the Japanese Americans being sent to Internment camps in WW2!"
"Today we're gonna get to know the scocktractic method."
edit this was really shitty one but I'm gonna leave it there as punishment for myself. Doesn't even really show the "Socratic" from all that mess
I hate this attitude of superiority like they don't know what the fuck's going on. They're living it, bro.
What the fuck have you've been smoking?
https://www.nknews.org/2020/03/ask-a-north-korean-how-much-do-north-koreans-know-about-the-outside-world/
North Koreans have very limited knowledge of the outside world. They're not entirely ignorant of it.
But remember that less than 100 years ago Europe was manipulated with hateful propaganda to the extent it was.
Remember that even currently, with access to free interet, there are people who still refuse basic facts like the Earth not being flat.
And you don't think North Koreans may have been manipulated into thinking that we aren't actually "free western democracies", but evil monsters who rape babies while lying about "respecting human rights".
Like it is exceedingly fucking arrogant of you to assume that because "they're living it bro" that they knows what's going on. Like saying that if a woman is in a relationship where she gets beaten and raped that they chose to do that and that "they'd know where to get help if they wanted it."
What the fuck is wrong in dropping in information about the basic tenets of what we westerners claim to base our values on; valuing human rights in general, freedom, equal rights, democracy?