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[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 60 points 3 days ago (5 children)

He admitted he didn’t understand the science.

Neither do I. You know what we should do when we don’t understand the science?

SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE WHO DO!

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's like who do you trust to fix your car:

Your mechanic who you know has worked on cars before they could drive one, is passionate about cars, and has already gotten several shit boxes to run more reliably than a factory fresh Toyota.

Or this random spice head with a foil hat who just rolled up started kicking your tires and saying your car won't run because of a Jewish parts conspiracy.

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Tell me more about this conspiracy!

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And where can i get that fancy hat?!?

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don't even have to click the link. Love that song.

🎶"Wear a hat that's foil-lined! In case an alien's inclined to probe your butt or read your mind!"🎵

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

And like a mechanic if they show you your axle is bent you can see it, but you might not know what to look for without their guidance. With climate change I can see that temps are rising, but I don't fully understand why and how.

[–] Fashim@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The science is actually pretty straightforward, I taught it to my nephew because it's a great way to understand thermodynamics, conservation of energy and a few other fundamentals.

I'm not talking about crunching numbers to calculate the total CO2 equivalent in the air or to model an ice shelf or to quantify the AMOC or something, but the fundamental issue and why it happens is easy enough to understand for the layman.

There's a great video of Carl Sagan addressing congress(?) about climate change where he explains it concisely, if you're interested.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’m pretty stupid though. That’s why I’m not a scientist. I understand that all of the seemingly magical things I’ve interacted with all of my life aren’t actually magical, but can be understood and recreated by people with the intellect to do it. Take my love of the first 3 Mortal Kombat games (technically 4 counting ultimate) for example. I couldn’t make them. If I traveled back to the 1800s to show them off I’d be accused of witchcraft.

They work though. Someone smarter than me made it happen. Multiple intelligent people worked together to make all of this magic happen.

My ignorant ass needs to trust the experts in their area of expertise. So do the other ignorant assholes.

I don’t understand how all of these morons are out here using tech that they couldn’t come close to understanding, but they’re so confident they are smart enough to understand climate science.

Build your phone from scratch and then come talk to me about something advanced, asshole. That’s all I’m saying.

Makes me wanna rip my head off and throw it.

[–] nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago

If you wish to [build your phone] from scratch, you must first create the universe

--Carl Sagan

Did you put into proportion the amount of damage your nephew does compared to, say, Exxon?

That science is also easily understood, but corporate responsibility is for PR only.

Gibson is correct. The fearmongers target the individual, not the root cause.

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

Bold of you to assume i can understand thermodynamics or conservation of energy

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago

The science is a century and a half old. You can learn it. :-)

[–] CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But that's a big issue nowadays, there are loads of people claiming they understand and will yell really loud about it...so we don't hear the ones that actually do know.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago

...so we don't hear the ones that actually do know.

But we do?

Like, you can search for a professional's answer on it. Then review their references to how they came to that conclusion. Then you can literally look at research paper. Then ask another professional to review that research paper as well.

The root issue is even with all of that, these chuds are still shouting "fake news" about it.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah he conveniently leaves out that the deniers of the science understand it even less.