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Should we try to bolster our friendship with Europe?

The author claims that the UK government "must unambiguously launch talks on a big, expansive trade deal with the EU coupled with a deal on European defence".

Do you agree?

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[–] SleafordMod@feddit.uk 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The UK doesn't need to necessarily jump straight back into EU membership. There are other ways we can work together with Europe. Maybe at some point the UK government will consider rejoining the EU customs union and/or single market.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

There are other ways we can work together with Europe.

My point was, Europe may not want to interact with a fickle country like the UK anymore than necessary again. They probably don't need the aggravation.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Who could blame them? Lots of European people take a “you made your bed, lie in it” attitude. When we were in the EU, we were in on excellent terms, which will no longer be available, which will be a hard pill to swallow for many.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Lots of European people take a “you made your bed, lie in it” attitude.

The problem is, lots of Europeans also think the UK shat their bed, then got up and left. That's not easy to forgive.

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 6 points 3 days ago

Still, it is better to forgive but not forget. The deals that lie in the future will....should benefit EU more and will have to have safeguards against parties in power throwing tantrums for selfish gains.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

Made their bed, shat in it, and in many cases refuse to leave/accept it’s a bad situation. I can understand Europeans who won’t forgive. I was fucking heartbroken when I woke up that morning and found out Leave had won. I wouldn’t shut up about what a stupid idea it was, on social networks and real life.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Not my view for what it's worth. I'd happily welcome the UK back in.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

EU would definitely need a firm commitment this time.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Yes and readmission should certainly include things that they didn't insist on before, thing that made it easier for the UK to leave - common currency and the like.

[–] SleafordMod@feddit.uk 5 points 3 days ago

True, they probably don't want more aggravation, but they may well be open to closer co-operation on defence for example, which the article mentions.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

There are other ways we can work together with Europe

Like EEA membership.