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[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Except when they're stupid too. In the tutorial area of Horizon: Zero Dawn they have you climb a wall. The handholds are marked with white and yellow.

Except it's evening in game and the color grading effect makes everything a shade of orange. The colors aren't distinguishable and the shapes of handholds are still new. Took me two hours to figure it out. I knew I had to climb the wall, but where to do it and where to go on the wall was a mystery.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (2 children)

No offense but I don't think this is a dev problem, seeing how so many people went through it no problem and it took you two hours.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Poor color/contrast can be an accessibility issue. It's why some games come with colorblind modes that adjust light and color hues, to provide an option for players who have difficulty with that.

[–] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 11 points 3 days ago

Both horizon games have excellent colorblind modes and a button that highlights climbable points with high contrast. The paint is only visible without using this mode in the very first tutorial areas or on long/time-limited climbing segments. The game tries very hard to cater to a wide audience, and people still bandwagon on it relentlessly.

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Or perhaps devs could instead make sure their other efforts don't hide things? Especially in the tutorials?

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I just watched playthroughs of the game, including the tutorials, and the only thing I have to say is "how did you get stuck on it for two hours". This is like the cuphead journalist level. Each interactable / climbable stands out in annoyingly bright orange paint. No portion of the day hides it - even the orange hue you describe. Like how?

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world -4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Because everything around it was also orange. My not colorblind partner had a hard time with it too. It wasn't a required part, so perhaps you watched one that didn't go there.

[–] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You didn't turn on the appropriate colorblind mode (which you are prompted to do during your new game setup). Both Zero Dawn and Forbidden West do this, I recently replayed ZD in preparation for FD and just started FD after holiday. This one's on you boss

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

I would stop arguing with them now, the only thing worse than arguing with an idiot is arguing with a stubborn and wrong idiot.

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago

We did, actually, and it didn't help.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hey guys, I found one of those stupid gamers! ☝️😅

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

(someone sticks their neck out
immediately gets chopped)

Well done.

[–] droporain@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 3 days ago

Go go screen brightness maximum!