He seems like the type that ever since he was a kid would full on cry and make everything miserable for everyone until they just gave him his way to shut him up.

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

That over sized black T and gold chain is so absurd. Maybe I don’t follow enough influencers, but when did alt right culture appropriate last decade’s hip hop style?

[–] yonder@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago

Steering the helm of a massive advertising company that misleads and manipulates users does not seem masculine to me.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, a tom of Finland character he certainly is not. Like he's definitely masculine, but more masculine [pejorative] in the vein of a man having a midlife crisis and deciding to get into a sad pantomime of youthful masculinity. He definitely doesn't seem the type to do hard labor to provide for his loved ones or to spend his evenings in a shed tinkering on his projects. His masculinity is not the presence of the traits our society positively associates with men and masculinity or of those that those who are attracted to masculinity find attractive or endearing, but merely a starker absence of the positive traits associated with femininity or neutrality and an absence of the negative traits of femininity.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Love the Tom of Finland reference I bet it went over most peoples heads

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Thanks, I'm a woman who has friends who are leather men so whenever I see these guys going on and on about masculine energy my mind initially goes to leather men. Because the reality is these guys don't want masculinity for its own sake, that's leather men, or whatever nick Offerman is doing or wherever else you see people who are masculine because they like it. These men see masculinity as a vehicle for power and staving off their fears of aging. They clearly fear that they're insufficiently masculine and rather than asking themselves what the root cause of that insecurity is and trying to be the person they genuinely want to be (which may very well mean they take testosterone supplements and get into martial arts) they're just going to act like a 14 year old who thinks that going full silverback will get him laid, respected, and happiness.

I recently finished the fifth book of the stormlight archive and I really respected the way it dealt with toxic vs healthy masculinity and so that's actually something that's just been on my mind a lot lately.

So yeah I guess I'm just not impressed by this performative Rogan style masculinity, if you want to show me how manly you are act like someone with a secure and healthy relationship with his masculinity because as a grown ass adult this Zuckerberg bs is fucking sad