this post was submitted on 26 Jul 2023
1201 points (89.6% liked)

Malicious Compliance

19593 readers
1 users here now

People conforming to the letter, but not the spirit, of a request. For now, this includes text posts, images, videos and links. Please ensure that the “malicious compliance” aspect is apparent - if you’re making a text post, be sure to explain this part; if it’s an image/video/link, use the “Body” field to elaborate.

======

======

Also check out the following communities:

!fakehistoryporn@lemmy.world !unethicallifeprotips@lemmy.world

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] gunnm@monero.town -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Censor and banning opinions and ideas you don't like is anti free speech.

[–] Imotali@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You were allowed to say it. I'm allowed to remove it. Welcome to the world. Don't like it? Leave.

But also: nobody in the world actually likes the idea of absolutist free speech. The founding fathers certainly didn't believe in such an idea.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Friend, I appreciate your mod efforts, and I support 100% what you're doing here.

Having said that, I think there is a misalignment in terms of free speech definitions.

What I think you're saying is that people are free to express themselves, and the government (in the U.S., Italy, Argentina, wherever) will not censor you for that. However, a consequence of that is that you can ban them. Fair enough.

But people are not referring to the free speech in the country, region or whether. They're specifically referring to the exercising of free speech in the community you are moderating. You're saying that "there is free speech here," then it follows that transphobic comments should be allowed (something I wouldn't like because fuck transphobes.) But since you remove comments that don't align with the community, then the community doesn't have free speech - and that's okay. I'm just referring to the contradiction: "you're allowed to say what you want, but I will ban you if you say this or that" - welp, that just means that "this or that" is not allowed.

I think that's what the other commenters are saying. They're not criticizing you for removing comments. They're calling out that removing comments (as a consequence of speech) and claiming that there is free speech, well no, technically it isn't.

[–] Pokethat@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Well yeah, but they expect people talking nonsense to get pummeled in the court of public opinion