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[–] TypicalHog@lemm.ee 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

When most/all multiplayer games start working on Linux that's when Linux can really start taking off.

[–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

They do. We're already there.

The only titles that don't work are the ones with kernel level anti-cheat, and that needs to die anyway.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

All games that enforce kernel level anti-cheat won't work

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Are you serious? Most games can be played on Linux? I don't care about the kernel anti cheat games, since that shit is not going on my pc anyway

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

I played enshrouded and path of exile and Diablo and Elden ring coop and bg3 coop all with zero issues except on like the first few days of release if there are any.

The worst thing right now about Linux multiplayer gaming with anticheat is the release day experience. Or if it's a AAA title with heavy graphics expectations, odds are they use some weird directx fuckery that's not available in vulkan immediately and needs patching.

All of that gets fixed when Steam deck compatibility at launch day becomes more of a thing, so it's just a matter of time tbh. I've been using Linux dual-boot since Hardy Heron and as my sole OS since 2018, 2025 may be honestly the year of the Linux desktop no joke.

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Proton is basically magic. I've got 1960 games on steam and I have a chunk that are listed as 'untested' but less than 10 that are listed as incompatible. The games listed as untested also usually end up just working. You may have to mess with proton or winetricks sporadically, but even that is very rare in my experience. It is nearly always an issue in a multiplayer game with anti-cheat when it just doesn't work.

[–] FizzyWhiskey@datasci.social 2 points 1 day ago

@BarbecueCowboy @madcaesar That's basically my experience as well. Usually, the developers need to add a flag in their anti-cheat builds, and they'll just work; however, developers are frequently not interested.

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If you aren't playing games with a kernel anti cheat, legit 99.99% of games will work. Nearly every broken game is due to an anticheat. ProtonDB lists only 4% of the top 1000 Steam games as "borked", and the majority of those are due to anticheat. Any that aren't will likely be fixed by Proton updates.

If you also want to avoid any games that might not be super smooth, filtering Bronze ranked games are another 3%. Silver is another 8%, but I've never had an issue running a Silver rated game.

[–] TypicalHog@lemm.ee 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

My issue is I only play multiplayer games and most have KLAC.

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 19 hours ago

Then there's nothing wrong with staying on Windows. I play nearly exclusively competitive multiplayer games, but all the ones I play work with Proton.

I’m sure there are exceptions… I haven’t tried every game. But most games in my Steam library work with 0 tinkering, and the rest usually just require setting a few launch options.

The only games I haven’t been able to get working at all are Riot games (vanguard anti-cheat is a b*****) and the VR mods for HL2.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I haven't found a game that isn't riot owned that doesn't let me play on linux

[–] Fashim@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I haven't had a problem running anything yet, currently playing fallout 4 with f4se and a few mods using a ds4 controller over bluetooth.

That's probably one of the buggiest games out there so that's saying something. It's the first game I've had to tinker with the launch settings though

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Seems more like about 20% of games. It’s definitely improving but still a long way to go.

[–] kmacmartin@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Steam Deck compatibility has a much higher standard since it requires the performance being good, gamepad support, etc, and even that's at 40%. General Linux can't be less than 95% for games that don't require kernel level anticheat. Try checking a random sampling on https://www.protondb.com/.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I appreciate it; seeing more than a couple of people recommending protondb. I'll have to investigate it on my next day off from work that's not a weekend. Thank you.

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

20% of games are broken or working? That's way off either way.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yea... you're probably right. Maybe it's just the games that I want to play. Those tend to not be Linux compatible (if they're in steam), and for the games that aren't even in Steam, I don't bother trying to make them work in wine or anything like that. Just dual boot and call it a day.

[–] TypicalHog@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As someone who almost exclusively plays multiplayer games - we are def not there. I agree with you that kernel-level anti-cheat needs to go and games should focus more on AI-based (behavior and pattern analysis) anti-cheats instead. But, it's simply not fair to to say that "we're already there" when almost 50% of the largest (most played) games out there don't work on Linux.

We are not there. Is it Linux's fault? No. But we are absolutely not there, yet.

[–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m curious, what games have you tried that don’t work in Linux?

Perhaps I’m just lucky but it rarely happens to me these days.

[–] TypicalHog@lemm.ee 1 points 21 hours ago

RUST, VALORANT, PUBG_BATTLEGROUNDS, DELTA_FORCE, BATTLEFIELD_2042, TOM_CLANCYS_RAINBOW_SIX_SIEGE.

You probably don't play multiplayer games as much as I do.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have a Windows PC to play Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen, and more recently Marvel Rivals. We’re still not quite there yet, although it was pretty cool that Baulders Gate worked on Linux.

[–] WillBalls@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Both of those games are marked gold on protonDB, so you shouldn't have to use windows to run them if you want (although marvel rivals apparently needs SteamDeck=1 %command% in the launch options): https://www.protondb.com/app/3107230 https://www.protondb.com/app/2767030

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Interesting… thanks for this. I’ll need to look into protondb more; had not heard of it prior to this.

I was a part of the pre-EA access group for Pantheon so my game isn’t a part of Steam. Is this a Steam specific thing?

[–] patatahooligan@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Yes, Proton is primarily a Steam thing, but it's free software and it's being actively ported to other launchers as umu (not by Valve). The project is very new and I'm not sure it perfectly matches Proton behavior yet, at least as far as game-specific tweaks are concerned.

Personally, for a non-Steam game I would just try to run it via Lutris. Lutris tries to automatically setup everything so you don't need to tinker with anything in the best case. It even automatically downloads the game installer and wine, and you can configure it to use the aforementioned umu instead of vanilla wine. In the ideal case, you get the game installed and running with minimal effort all from within the Lutris client. The problem is that the Lutris scripts are maintained by the project itself with recommended corrections from the community. So it's possible that a game could run with tinkering, but it hasn't been automated yet.

[–] WillBalls@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Proton is certainly "cleaner" to use with Steam, but you don't have to use Steam to use proton. I'd recommend adding the executable to Steam as a non-Steam game for simplicity. Otherwise you can use Lutris or find a tutorial online to run that specific executable with proton outside of Steam

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I appreciate the info, and willingness to discuss this. I think you've been able to identify my point of reluctance around all of this now; it feels like work. When I'm done with work, I don't want to do more work in order to get my games to play. Might explain why I bought a PS5 in May too.

Maybe I'll give this some investigation on my next holiday / day off. That way it'll feel only "kinda" like work.

[–] Breadhax0r@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

That's a fair point, linux has gotten a lot better with stuff 'just working' but when it doesn't, it requires some research and tinkering.

I was figuring something out the other day and it dawned on me that the reason I've become so enamored with linux is that it's a hit of nostalgia from getting things working in the 90s. (Also I'm a nerd and I think the way computers work is fascinating lol)

[–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don’t know about Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen, but Marvel Rivals worked fine out of the box for me.

For context:
CPU: Intel 9900k
GPU: RTX 3080ti
Distro: EndeavorOS
Display: Wayland

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 day ago

It's the year of the Linux Desktop!!