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The statistics show Google had less than 90% search market share in Q4 of 2024, but which competitors are benefiting?

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[–] superkret@feddit.org 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

tl/dr: Bing is second with 4% and Yandex is third.
My guess is people use Bing when Microsoft literally forces them to or they don't know how to change it (start menu search, Edge default), for downloadable images, and porn.
Yandex is the only search engine available without fuss in Russia.

I'm honestly really surprised that Baidu doesn't have ~20% of the market.
Can someone who knows more than me about China maybe explain?

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 19 points 21 hours ago

Regarding Baidu it's probably a statistic collection problem, very common in regards to measuring Chinese Internet usage

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 11 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Interestingly, DDG (using bing) usually gives me the same or better results as google itself. As for yandex, while it is russian it has an english .com version as well and it has the somewhat unique ability to find things the american engines filter out, coming in handy when looking for certain things 🚢 ☠️.

So that might make a decent subset of (western) users use those engines deliberately

[–] Fusion@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm using Ecosia, which is (as far as I know) based on Bing and I really like it. The search quality really isn't bad at all. (and I'm searching a lot online) Also it feels more to what I'm used to, without AI answers and other stuff that I don't like at the top of the results.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

Ecosia uses Bing and Google. Which search provider it uses for you depends on your location and settings you can specify.

https://ecosia.helpscoutdocs.com/article/579-search-results-providers
(I have no idea whether that link will show you German or English text depending on where you are, and frankly, I hate the modern internet a bit for things like that.)

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

It has definitely also gotten worse in the last two ish years though. Or maybe my tastes have gotten weirder.

[–] seanom@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I use bing for the points. Free gamepass.

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Microsoft is a nasty monopoly. I wouldn't cheer for them. Ever.

[–] holo@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Baidu(and other mainland search engines) doesn't publish stats, and it's harder to track internal traffic given no part of the traffic should reach international routers.

Yandex is also used in the US and anywhere where the US government is less trustworthy than Russia.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

These are Statcounter stats, which are typically put together by tacking traffic reported by web sources. I'm guessing Chinese search may not be referring too many people to the sites that contribute info to Statcounter.

Also worth noting that AI search isn't counted hear, as far as the original source can tell. Maybe Google users are more likely to migrate to AI solutions (or just have more AI solutions available) than some of the alternatives listed here.

[–] Eagle0110@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Then it probably also contributed to it, that if we can assume most users of Baidu are Chinese people in mainland China, then most of them wouldn't be visit many non-domestic/non-Chinese website where StatCounter could get their tracking traffic reports from, because of a combination of CCP's internet censorship that practically runs on a whitelist and blocks most nondomest website by default, as well as language barrier since most PRC residents have barely any functional English skill (like the ability to actually understand others in English or express ideas in English, as opposed to merely earn scores on a standardized English exam).

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 3 points 23 hours ago

Yeah. I don't know what stats they can aggregate, but I imagine they skew non-Chinese.

I'm very skeptical of Statcounter stuff in general, although it's at least apples to apples if you're tracking something over time. Google is likely dropping in usage. Where that's going is maybe a bridge too far for what's being collected.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

anywhere where the US government is less trustworthy than Russia

oof, that's a difficult decision...

[–] holo@lemmy.wtf -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

For most people in earth, it's really not

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You're right! While there's a significant amount of corruption and greed in the US, they're at least not an outright dictatorship :)

[–] holo@lemmy.wtf 2 points 21 hours ago

Right, just like North Korea isn't because they say they're not.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

No, for most people it's not a difficult decision at all.
But the result won't be unanimous, it'll be split right down the middle based on where they live.