331
this post was submitted on 14 Jan 2025
331 points (83.3% liked)
Memes
46489 readers
905 users here now
Rules:
- Be civil and nice.
- Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Bad take. We're in the modern world of information warfare: expecting every citizen to be immune to psychological trickery from a nation spending tens of billions to research and test ways to trick them is unrealistic and unreasonable. There's people with PhDs in human psychology spending their entire time and untold amounts of compute power trying to stoke the flames of division and push misinformation and you think we should allow it?
But enough about the US intelligence-industrial complex.
The US government isn't in charge of one of the largest social media platforms in the world. US corporations are absolutely doing this as well, but that's an argument for more regulation not to grant China free reign
US-run social media apps are pretty much now just arms of the US surveillance state, functioning both as pro-US propaganda machines, and tools to spy on the communications of the entire world.
For example, the most popular social media app in India for example, is facebook. The US controls the main method of news and communication for a country much larger than its own.
Yeah, and...? Does that mean we ignore the one under CCP control because... why? It's not fair?
Also, I'm not questioning the data as it's clearly about when they began collecting data, but that chart looks a little... sketchy. Like you pulled it from your Great Aunt's Facebook feed in 2014. Where is the data from? That does not appear to be any kind of valid source I'm aware of in the corner. When was this made, and how much has changed since then?
They're slides of internal US prism program documents from the 2010 US global surveillance disclosures that Snowden and Assange exposed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM#The_slides
There's no reason to think the US government has stopped any of these programs. If anything, given the massive DoD budgets, they've increased.
Agreed that the chart looks hilariously fake, but it’s a real image from a 2013 leak by Edward Snowden on PRISM. I found that original image in this Guardian article: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data
The Wikipedia article includes more discussion and context on the leak.
Damn didn't know the US Government owned Facebook.
US Government doesn't own AT&T, and yet, they have their fiber splice in AT&T's building, in order to spy on all international communications.
He didn't say the government owned Facebook. Even so, it doesn't need to own it to control the flow of information.
The US intelligence & propaganda machines dwarf those of all other states, just as the US military dwarfs those of all other states. And they don’t only direct it at other countries, they direct it inward, too. “Russiagate” was a domestic psyop directed at its own people, to manufacture our consent to censorship. Hamilton 68: How former intelligence officials and Democratic operatives conspired to manufacture ‘Russiagate’
The US most definitely uses its surveillance and propaganda system to influence the public. This was all exposed a long time ago.
The thought that Russia influences AOTUS is a conspiracy is probably one of the more bonker things I have ever heard though.
For sure stories were made up but anything short of of acknowledging that Russia has financially supported and heavily influenced everything about the current administration is pure conservatard garbage.
Exactly this. This is their only argument against it, and it's trash. Yeah, no shit, we know they are all doing it. Yes, we all agree that they should be dealt with as well.
This is such peak western projection holy shit
Trying to scrub all properganda from our lives is also impossible. Better to get a balanced media diet from a variety of sources.
That's hard when people smarter than you are being paid billions to study and test exactly how to keep you addicted to their media platform. And if that doesn't work, they'll just buy your preferred media platform and devolve it themselves.