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[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not Chinese bad, Chinese government bad. because the Chinese government has so much control, Chinese companies can't be trusted. yes, stolen data is bad. I know that data is being stolen anyway, but tiktok has historically been very bad about it. however, i was reffering to them moving from one shitty Chinese platform to another even more shitty and even more Chinese (as in controlled more by the Chinese government) one, when there are platforms that are from places that do not have an authoritarian government able to control any company if they so choose. of course something like instagram (reels) or youtube shorts isn't much better in terms of data theft, but who has the data does matter no matter how hard you're coping.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago

You are just parroting shit you read on the internet and I feel bad for you. You literally have no idea how fucked we all are in terms of our data being stolen. I guess you want to be the one who determine who fucks you. Well TikTok users are doing the same

You are essentially virtue signaling that you are so much more security minded than everyone because you “safeguard your data”. I’m sorry to burst your bubble but our oligarch owns our data and is selling it to the highest bidder. The fact that you own a phone/computer means your data has already been bought and sold.

[–] spicehoarder@lemm.ee 7 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I don't get it, are they going to steal my bank login? Like what's so bad about knowing I liked a fried meme?

[–] pfwood178@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 hours ago

It's more than just what you do in the app though. Check out some of the data any random website can find out about you here: privacy.net/analyzer/
Expand that into an app, given lots of permissions, that is tied to your phone number and email account. Given enough time and logging, it knows where you live and work, when you commute and sleep, every WiFi or mobile network you connect to and where they are located. This metadata is linked to your account and in-app activity. They have this data for you, your friends, colleagues, that weird guy you see on the bus every day... Right now, the app just uses all this to influence "your algorithm" (side note: this is also why people think some apps are actively 'listening' to conversations). But imagine a case where the govt owner of the app wants to start pushing a specific narrative, gradually swaying opinions or sowing the seeds of discourse, reinforcing it with the artificial echo chamber that is your new algorithm. /TedTalk

[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth -4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

They are stealing data that can be (and is, often) used to track you across the entire internet. many social media platforms (again, especially tiktok) use this data to straight up manipulate people into spending more time on their platform and having views that align with the interests of the company. this is especially bad if the interests of the company are really the interests of an authoritarian government that is blatantly hostile to other countries unprovoked.

[–] spicehoarder@lemm.ee 9 points 21 hours ago

Your statement applies whether we're talking about American or Chinese companies. One of these countries has affordable groceries, the other has school shootings.

But yeah yeah "what about Tianeman Square, and Taiwan?" OK sure, fine. What about police brutality and the ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST?