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that's a whole lot of words used to sell tiktok as a fun wholesome platform....
I'm getting strong "both sides are the same" vibes from that wall of text.
tiktok will be the first(of many) apps that will be removed from access within the US. why? to protect the people from outside influence and to protect national defense.
I'm not here to argue about the shit the US has or is doing that's the same or better or worse than China. I don't care because, it's a red herring.
tiktok has a well known and documented history of lying about their privacy protections. on the record they have sold American user data to Chinese backed MICs.
it's a threat to national security. the end.
Thats just not true, otherwise we wouldn't be welcoming a South African who illegally immigrated to the US and has some serious international conflicts-of-interests with US interests control a major social media platform.
strawman gonna strawman.
I didn't vote for him. did you?
you act like it's the current administration that let's Elon do whatever he does, but it's the incoming administration (Trump) that is allowing that.
Hardly a strawman! We have a major social media company in the US, that is controlled by a foreigner, for their own, and for foreign interests, and impacting our elections with measureable results.
So, obviously, this move wasn't done to prevent such a thing from happening, just to prevent certain countries from doing it.
Our current admin has done nothing to stop it, and therefore allowing it.
Why are all the US Gov accounts STILL on Twitter?
are you even taking this seriously? did you not even comprehend what I said or are you just blindly responding hoping for a "gotcha"?
not obvious, and just because you say it with more conviction doesn't make it true.
by that logic, then you're just as guilty for allowing them to do nothing. so what gives you the right to complaint about it if you haven't done anything to stop them?
there are so many reasons why but you're just too emotional and inexperienced to see them, but I'll point out a couple just so you can see how absurd you're being.
my advice, sit down and listen before you go off half cocked.
That aint a "gotya", that's proof it has nothing to do with preventing foreign interests from influencing anything. Because we have a foreign interest influencing it already: Musk.
So, we have other large social media networks, that are rife with foreign influence, that already influence the US's internal politics... But yet, banning tiktok was to prevent it from happening?
Its either true, or its not. And in this case, its not true. The sole reason was to keep China specifically, and it only arose because people in the US were learning about shit that US supports. Which the US doesn't want.
Except, they're not trying to stop foreign influence. They are trying to stop one country, and they only took notice because of news that is damning to the US.
And... with all your excuses... How come nothing is being done still? Its not new that Elon is a fascist. And it's not new that Elon is in bed with several foreign interests that are hostile to the US... In fact, its at least 6 years old news at this point.
But tiktok. home of the Pro-Palestinian content is what is being gone after now. Not the Fascists running Twitter, or Facebook... Wonder why that is? Could it be their political donations?
you clearly aren't taking this discussion seriously or you're acting in bad faith.
you continue to pound the same useless points again and again with little to no change.
I can only assume that your intent is this and that you're simply trying to "muddy the water".
I'm disappointed that you can't even hold up your argument without repeating yourself like a broken record because you don't even believe in your own message.
literally the only new angle you have taken is a "pro-palestinian" one, which to be frank tells me all I need to know about you and your goals.
You actually tricked yourself into believing this isn't all about shutting down competition to American companies or stopping people's (especially young people's) power to disseminate even remotely left leaning views that could gain traction and threaten the oligarchs.
I mean even the politicians who back this bill state as much, so I'm not sure why you think this is about national defense. American citizens are just under as much threat as before, but now they have one less way to express themselves. Ain't that great. /s
It can be a corporate move to out competition AND also improve security. These are not mutually exclusive.
I didn't though. and choosing an app to post memes is not a "power to disseminate". that's just childish to believe.
lies unless you can prove they stated that in an official capacity, disingenuous at best. Americans have the same amount of ways to express themselves today as they will tomorrow.
you honestly believe that an app will aid you in expressing yourself more? now who's tricking themselves? be it an app that's federated, Chinese, corporate, etc; you will never express yourself more than when you do it yourself. all these "apps" are distractions that bring much hand wringing and gnashing of teeth that force you into a little box so you can pretend you made a difference. social media apps are the "thoughts and prayers" of the 21st century.
so please forgive me for not takings your musings on one media platform over another seriously.