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European jitters about Trump 2.0 not shared by much of world, poll finds (www.theguardian.com)

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A 24-country poll by the European Council on Foreign Relations shows European allies overwhelmingly oppose Donald Trump’s return to the White House, citing concerns for global peace.

Conversely, countries like India, China, Russia, and Brazil largely welcome a Trump 2.0 presidency, with many seeing him as committed to ending wars in Ukraine and the Middle East.

The survey reflects shifting global power dynamics, a weakening "Western alliance," and growing influence of transactional politics.

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[–] Famko@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The russian invasion of Ukraine is nothing different to the American invasion of Iraq, the US backed Iraqi invasion of Iran, the Vietnam invasion and countless others.

Ok, so just because America invaded Iraq means it cant send weapons to Ukraine to protect itself against Russia? Or that Russia is justified in some way in invading Ukraine because America meddled in other countries?

we might actually get to be taken seriously again and we might be able to maintain and reestablish diplomatic ties and influence we are losing because of our arrogance and hipocricsy.

I'd argue that the USA was establishing better foreign relations when Democrats were in charge than when Republicans are. Trying to take over territories from countries such as Panama or Denmark is, in fact, very arrogant and self centered. We don't need or want even more belligerent countries in the world if we want to achieve some semblence of peace in the world.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Ok, so just because America invaded Iraq means it cant send weapons to Ukraine to protect itself against Russia? Or that Russia is justified in some way in invading Ukraine because America meddled in other countries?

Nowhere did i say that. But once again it shows how skewed the western perspective is. The west demands other nations not to care if they illegally invade other countries. It uses its (remaining) economic and soft power to threaten anyone who demands an end to western crimes. The US just showed this again with the house deciding to sanction the ICC for enforcing international law against Israel. And that one got strong bipartisan support.

So people that have been trained by the west not to care about wars in the world don't care about this one either. In their perspective it is just another war. And the sooner it ends, the sooner trade relationships can be back to normal, irrespective of who wins.

I’d argue that the USA was establishing better foreign relations when Democrats were in charge than when Republicans are. Trying to take over territories from countries such as Panama or Denmark is, in fact, very arrogant and self centered. We don’t need or want even more belligerent countries in the world if we want to achieve some semblence of peace in the world.

I mostly agree. I see two reasons, why people prefer Trump. The first is that the hypocrisy is less. Trump acknowledges that the US is only in it for their own interests instead of peddling all these lies about "Democracy" or "Liberty". The second reason is that Trump sees everything as a deal to be made. So if you know what Trump wants, you can make a deal. Compare that with Biden who whined about Netanyahu making him his little bitch but continued to support Israel with all means possible, because he is ideologically committed to Israeli and US imperialism.

So the Dems overall had made more diplomatic relationships, but less honest ones. With Trump it is fewer relationships but there is less pretense around them.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 1 points 15 minutes ago

You're lost in the semantics. Outcomes like fewer deaths resulting from foreign policy decisions, including belligerent invasions, matter more than perceived political "moral" calculus.