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Proton is dead (for me). Let's collect and discuss alternatives! ✊🛡 (lemmy.world)

submitted 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) by ShotDonkey@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here 🔐👇

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[–] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

You could look at infomaniak, but I didn't have the best experience trying out (or even getting started with) their services. Finding a provider that has all of Proton's apps is going to be tough (or at least it was from me while I was looking to escape from Tuta). Good luck, tho.

EDIT: Infomaniak is on F-Droid!

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Finding a provider that has all of Proton's apps is going to be toug

Nobody should be using any provider as one stop shop... That's how we got cooked by Google and Apple the first time folks.

Unbundle, mix and match...

Yeah it auck Proton did this but if you only got one proton service, it is eaiser to either do nothing or switch it.

[–] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I agree! I don't use Proton's VPN or their password manager for that reason. The equivalents I had in place already were fine and I didn't feel the need to switch over everything, just some things.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I feel like I should pre-emptively switch to Keepass incase Bitwarden goes right wing.

I mean, Keepass is free open source software so the political views of the developers don't matter as much.

[–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

I mean, Keepass is free open source software so the political views of the developers don't matter as much.

So is bitwarden, you don't have to use their servers.

[–] egonallanon@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago

+1 for keepass. Been using it for years and love it.