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[–] Crazyslinkz@lemmy.world 49 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

I find it funny that if TikTok was sold to an American it wouldn't be a security risk anymore.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 21 points 16 hours ago (5 children)

that was literally the whole fucking point.

is it me or did Lemmy fill up with the most oblivious users all of a sudden?

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 25 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Is it me or is everyone ELSE a moron except somehow for specifically ME

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Reddit must be banning lots of people

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

They are, it's all bots now

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The point of forcing ownership to be American was to force TikTok to be sold to Musk or one of the other massive data harvesting jack offs.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

that's an awful big stretch. would have been a convenient delivery though.

I do believe that's still a possibility though. just don't think that was the intended goal of the legislation.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Eh? You do realize most people on Lemmy are not on TikTok.

We're laughing at it all and enjoying the popcorn.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

yeah...not from the threads I've been in.

I mean, I find the countdown to tiktok town hilarious, but there are some very angry Chinese propagandists on Lemmy.

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 6 points 13 hours ago

Yeah, they're on .ml and hexbear and lemmygrad.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Which is a ridiculous premise.

[–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. I find it hilarious how some of these people conclude that China ONLY gets our data because of TikTok, when our own government and on soil companies sell and shares our data as long as the other (China even lmao) buy it from them. No issues as long as they get money, but if they don’t get the money, it’s “national security” risk.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It's not the data they care about.

[–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 0 points 15 hours ago

I know.. it’s the things I’ve been trying to drum on about every time someone’s says it’s a “security” risk. No one cares though, because “TikTok” bad. :/

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

They would then be under US jurisdiction, that's the issue with TikTok, the US can't for them to comply with any laws, current or future.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

No, the issue with Tik Tok is that the government can’t control it like it does Facebook, Twitter, etc.

There is nothing in China that can harm you as much as the American Government. No intention, no action, no belief will ever hurt you as much as America has.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago

They can't control it because... It's not located in the USA! Good job, you understood what I said!

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Bullshit. Any country has jurisdiction over companies operating inside it's borders. If what you say is true then we couldn't even ban TikTok.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Who exactly do you expect them to sue if a website has no physical presence inside the US borders and it disobeys US laws? 🤔

The only thing they can truly do against TikTok is prevent people from downloading the app through official means and having ISPs blocking the website. Outside of that it could 100% continue operating and scraping user data to send it to China.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

TikTok does have US offices and employees though.

And yeah if they're blocked in the app stores, and by ISPs you'd have to side load it onto your phone and tunnel out with a VPN. 170 million Americans aren't doing that. You'd be lucky to find 100,000 willing to do it.

And since even SCOTUS laughed at the espionage argument, we again need to bring up that China just buys the exact same data from Meta, Alphabet, and X. We aren't securing anything.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

Three companies that could easily be regulated to prevent them from selling that data to China, but wasn't there political interference as well?

Anyway, they can just close their US office and then the US is shit out of luck unless they ban them (since that would be their only recourse at that point).

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 1 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

because then they'd be subject to all the bullshit the feds do and required to comply.

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

As in implementing back doors and reporting to the NSA/CIA/FBI/CBP/BATF/ETC?

[–] jfrnz@lemm.ee 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Like what? What are American companies required to do to protect your privacy that TikTok doesn’t do because they are a Chinese company?

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

TikTok is not being banned to protect anyone's privacy.

[–] jfrnz@lemm.ee -2 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Fine, what national security obligations are US-based social media companies meeting that TikTok/ByteDance is not?

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 4 points 13 hours ago

TikTok/bytedance are controlled by a rival country. US based companies can, of course, help our rivals too but there's some degree of separation that makes it a bit harder to address/discover.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 1 points 13 hours ago

The PATRIOT act.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

It's not about what they aren't doing. It's something they are doing.