Apparently "nationalism is bad" is an uncivil take. Unless there's another reason someone would ban this comment... 🤔
this post was submitted on 16 Jan 2025
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It's regularly abused to describe differences in opinion or deficits in trust. Case in point, evangelicals will fling it around regularly when arguing over the practice of teaching Evolution in high school. They'll assert Biblical Infallibility and claim paleontology is a falsehood that children are indoctrinated into.
You get the same out of war time propaganda. Particularly out of the Korean War, when the Red Scare was particularly high pitched.
Do as you please.
I found a certain irony in the poster using the term to describe what is functionally just a reflection on the author's own dogmatic views. I thought the history of the term - itself deeply reflective of an entrenched adversarial worldview that brooked no rebuttal to the point of dropping thermonuclear devices on people who adhered to a different economic philosophy - helped illustrate that.
Apparently I was wrong. The dogged insistence that Chinese people are incapable of thinking for themselves in the aggregate, and only Taiwanese people are true free thinkers, is too deeply baked into the Lemmy zeitgeist.
You don't see the irony in starting from the perspective that the poster (me, btw? Not sure how you missed that) is the one dug into his own views, despite a complete lack of information about what the arguments were, what the discussion was, or what "evidence" was being ignored? Don't get me wrong, you're correct in saying you shouldn't take my opinion as universal truth and it was never stayed as such,bbut assuming the opposite is true is equally fallacious.
Your take on irony fell flat because it required a biased perspective to perceive as ironic. Considering this is an entire community built around shamelessly mocking that particular bias, you surely couldn't have thought that readers would approach the discussion from the same perspective as you.
I believe that those particular Chinese students were, at least in the majority, failing to think critically about the discussion at hand. Perhaps the assumption that they failed to do so was a result of state brainwashing via propaganda was unfair, as I admitted in another post in this thread. To suggest that this means I assume all Chinese citizens are incapable of thinking for themselves, and that all Taiwanese people are free thinkers truly just shows that you started this conversation in bad faith. I initially attempted to assume as little about your intentions as possible and appreciate your comments for what they were, as misplaced as they seemed. It's unfortunate that in this case, I was clearly feeding a troll.
I'm sure you did. In the same way you insist anyone who votes for Trump simply isn't thinking critically.
Only folks with your shared views are recognized as intellectual. You're incapable of accepting any other train of thought.
That's the universe of people you're comment established. And the cavalier attitude is why you were banned.
I don't see any evidence of that
That's why I asked what you meant rather than making assumptions about your intentions. But you even attempted to mock me for that.
I don't need to continue to suffer your unwarranted insults and assumptions. I used my bias to make a statement about my own lived experience without insulting anyone, nor using it as irrefutable evidence of anything. You're using yours to group anyone who disagrees with you together, insult their character and claim intellectual superiority. Go fuck yourself.
The community is definitely better off without you in it