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[–] Meltrax@lemmy.world 27 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, I feel like violence is evangelized online in odd ways.

The class that suffers the most in violent uprisings is the lowest class. By orders of magnitude. For every member of the bourgeois that is taken down, tens or hundred or thousands of every day people are injured or killed.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 23 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

But it's already happening. They're already suffering.

[–] Meltrax@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

"They" (we) aren't being killed en masse.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Take it from us who dont live in a country built on liebensraum created by genociding the native population and has spent all its VERY short existance not knowing tyranny or how to separate church, state and private companies.

Classless society leads to death of millions and classed society. Lowest class loves killing lowest class. Once the preceived opressors run out more will be found. People wanting violence want it for selfish reason. The guy calling to kill all landlords today will be raping your small daughter in a state organized torture dungeon tomorrow. Yes its graphic, yes this is what you get when you want mass violence, stop pretending otherwise and buying into propaganda of evil people.

This is how it has always been, and always will be. Slow social reforms is the way to get what you want. Violence just creates more violence.

[–] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.org 1 points 2 hours ago

I agree with your anti-violence stance, but can't ignore the reasoning behind it.

I don't believe there's some special class that either accumulates or breeds violence. I don't believe that the "lowest" class, whatever that might be, is fixed on killing its kin. The people ruling Nazi Germany certainly weren't the "lowest" class when they were making their impactful decisions, many of which killed members of other classes, not theirs.

Neither Trump nor Musk are "low" class, yet they tend to hold the more absurd and anti-human views, separating people into worthy and not-so-much and believing they can make destinies.

There are dangerous people in our world, which are often attracted by power, often any sort of power they can rise to. Violence included.

Regardless, violence only breeds violence, for so many reasons that no comment can hold. Violence traumatizes and creates examples and "Why can't I, too?.." questions, etc.