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I saw a post that talked about racism towards people and when I talked about it the response I got was very heated and a person even called lemmy.world a community of 'hitlerites'

I have been around for a week or so and this is my first time seeing such explicit vulgar reaction towards another community, is this a one-off or should I block hexbear?

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[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, let’s rewrite history, liberal.

Shit libs having the worst takes, name a more iconic duo.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Please explain how Biden's policies killed millions

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

His covid policy was essentially “let it rip” and he cut covid benefit programs which forced people to work when sick or immune compromised.

Our leaders could of put an effort into systemic solutions for covid - funding schools to replace their HVAC systems for example - and they should of pushed masking more with legitimate N95s instead of the baggy surgicals or worse the cloth masks, and not mandated vaccines. The vaccines did not work at stopping the spread, and the idea that they lessened severity is theoretical (omicron came out around the same time as the vaccines and was not as deadly or serious as delta which killed otherwise healthy young people by the thousands). By forcing people to vaccinate or lose their jobs, people just wholesale discounted the entire pandemic rather than take other meaningful precautions. And keeping kids out of school was a mistake.

And he still owes me $600 that fucking racist Zionist bastard.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The vaccines kept those vulnerable parties from dying. The fact that vaccinated people had less severe cases isn't theoretical it is extremely well studied. It was reasonable to suppose it would slow the spread as less chance of infection means less chance of spreading it but factually vaccinated people were much more likely to take risks ergo this certainly more than canceled out benefits in that respect.

Also your concept that Biden killed millions is just un-mathmatical. The total deaths in the US after Biden took office is ~800,000. There aren't millions of deaths to lay at his feet period and laying even those 800k at Biden's feet is nonsense. Logically if you want to explore the impact of the president you would have to compare not vs a fantasy world in which there is no covid but a hypothetical one in which an alternative Biden made better choices with justification as to how your counterfactual is both foreseeable AND actionable.

For instance it makes no sense to ask 2021 Biden to act on scientific insight earned in 2023 or enact policies which is out of scope of his power, illegal, unconstitutional, or up to the states.

By forcing people to vaccinate or lose their jobs, people just wholesale discounted the entire pandemic rather than take other meaningful precautions.

It is profoundly weird to blame the left for conservatives refusing to protect themselves or others and blame their entire weird psychotic philosophy with its own proponents, memes, influences, and twisted perception of the world on the lefts vaccine mandate. Relatively few actually lost their job and the the entire movement pre-existed covid and only gained additional adherents and credence.

Also by the time Biden came into power n95 was already promoted as better unless you think Biden is at fault for not getting Trump's regime to promote better masks.

To recap

1.2M died since 19ever not millions

Of those 800k died after Biden took office.

It's not clear that many could have been saved by superior federal policy.

Your claim that Biden's actions led to the deaths of millions appears to be your fantasy unsupported by any objective reality because you are both scientificly illiterate and don't even know how many people died.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The vaccine also hurt people like myself, I ended up with heart palpitations after the second shot and it didn’t stop me from getting covid which is what they told people, lying through their fucking teeth.

My body my choice when it comes to abortion, but your body my choice when it comes to a brand new untested vaccine? Yeah ok, great logic. Why should anyone trust the healthcare industry when all they do is treat us like livestock? Our entire economy is making people sick on non food and then selling them the treatment. It’s sickening. And liberals see nothing wrong with it???

They could of pushed masking with effective masks, they could of pushed distancing, they could of made systemic investments in air quality, but no. None of those are profitable. They all bought up pharmaceutical stocks and then shoved a vaccine down everyone’s throats and got rich off it.

They lied about how it spreads, they lied about masks, they lied about the origin of it, they lied and lied and lied. Why should anyone ever trust another public health official? And now they’re obfuscating h1n1 which is far more deadly and dangerous! Under biden!

And your numbers are wrong. 1.7 million died which is believed to be an undercount, 400k under trump the rest under biden.