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Every time Windows updates itself, my Linux disappears. Actually, it's just hidden, only the boot menu was overwritten. You need a computer maintenance technician to make a new boot menu. I use a USB stick with a live Linux with automatic boot repair tools.

Recently, Windows has become resistant to Boot Repair Disk. Now I have to open computer firmware by tapping "Esc" right after power-up, then select "Boot options", then "Linux".


EU must ban all US-made smart products for its own safety. All closed-source software and electronics that can be used for strategic manipulation and sabotage -- Google, Apple, Amazon, all of it.

We have functional, clunky open-source software that could easily be fitted for any purpose with the money we waste propping up foreign monopolies sabotaging us. Europe has taken a huge risk. I suspect bribery.

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[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 84 points 6 days ago (6 children)

FWIW dual booting from the same physical drive is never a good idea in my experience. Even Linux-Linux dual booting is just asking for problems when one of them updates the grub configs and messes it up for the other.

Save yourself some sanity and move your Windows install to a new drive.

[–] biokernel@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 6 days ago

and when one drive fails you can boot from the other drive and repair your system

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I tried to do a dual boot from 2 hard drives (windows main), had to restore the Linux side early on, using its built in restore tool, and the computer would not boot after beyond a black screen without pulling the battery for the BIOS off the motherboard. No boot menus or firmware or bios menus were accessible until I did that.

That's the worst oh shit did I fully break my computer moment ever.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

One if my laptops only has 1 bay for a drive unfortunately. Currently going through the motion OP describes. Updating Windows and repairing the bootloader. It's still MBR, not uefi, too.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Does it have an optical disk drive? You could replace that with an HDD caddy if you really want an extra disk

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

That's actually why i don't auto-mount ~~/bin~~ /boot in linux. It only messes things up when it updates the kernel.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

As someone who just started using Linux regularly, this seems bonkers to me.

Unless you're building your own kernel and compiling apps from scratch, why would anything in /bin break?

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Sorry i meant /boot, on some systems it seems to link to the EFI partition, so when you have a dual-boot setup, updating the kernel breaks the other system's kernel or something.. I just checked and it seems to not be an issue on my current setup, as they aren't links to the EFI partition.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Oh, that makes more sense.

Still, from my tests with Mint, it looks like it probes other disks and partitions when updating grub, and reinstalls it correctly. But I suppose there are cases where the probe could fail and you'd have to boot from the grub prompt.

yeah it's more of a hypothetical worry, i guess. since every system seems to handle boot a bit differently (unfortunately), it's difficult to get a definite answer to that.

I personally love the UEFI boot system, but it's not typically directly used. Instead, some complicated grub setup is often in place. That makes it a bit of a complicated question.

[–] mildlyusedbrain@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

This is really the advice to take. I tried dual boot and went back to Windows due to it nuking grub.

Tried again after buying a new SSD and haven't had an issues since

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

this - there needs to be a standard for all installers to get behind